tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post2549503830485805894..comments2024-03-22T02:18:33.649-07:00Comments on Haldimand's Unheard Voice: Haldimand "The Verdict is In".Donna Pitcherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01938591277088755092noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-80723054284013694192007-11-18T03:59:00.000-08:002007-11-18T03:59:00.000-08:00Thanks, anonymous for sharing. I also have heard c...Thanks, anonymous for sharing. I also have heard contrary to what Mayor Trainer is spewing. She is always trying to justify her negative actions.<BR/>I sure hope that the County did not pay for Mayor Trainer's legal bills as well as the settlement fees. I question why she had to have two lawyers? I understand one was from Hamilton and one from London.<BR/>I understand her lawyers were directed to settle. Who directs her lawyers, only Mayor Trainer. She always sees herself as the victim, the whole world must be wrong and she is the only one who is right?<BR/>Donna, you really need to get ALL the facts not just what Mayor Trainer spews your way. When are you going to see the light where Trainer is concerned and see authentic paper trail? <BR/>In my opinion, Mayor Trainer knows that you are out and about and that you are an avenue of getting her information out there. Again Donna my advice to you is, do your homework.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-86233085510496831512007-11-17T12:50:00.000-08:002007-11-17T12:50:00.000-08:00I beg to differ, . two lawyers settled on behalf o...I beg to differ, . two lawyers settled on behalf of Trainer, one for the County and one for the assistant, plus Insurance lawyers.<BR/>You are right not a penny from Trainer's pockets because there was doubt that she would pay anyway. She is never accountable to anything that she does. She did not even show up for the mediation, if she was not guilty why not show up and face the accuser and push it to the court process. IMHO, nobody believed Trainer and thought it would be cheaper to settle out of court. Trainer does the crime and does not pay a dime IMHO.<BR/>The County paid $45,000.00 for the contructive dismissal portion of the lawsuit. The balance of the settlement for defamation of character, harassment and slander against Trainer herself for her conduct.<BR/>Her insurance representative settled on her behalf in order to keep it out of court. So, the fact that the taxpayers are footing the bill for the entire settlement by no means indicates that she is not guilty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-32733876421830810422007-11-15T19:21:00.000-08:002007-11-15T19:21:00.000-08:00Just an update on the settlement.According to Mayo...Just an update on the settlement.<BR/><BR/>According to Mayor Trainer, "all" the money that was paid out in the settlement was against "Haldimand County" and court costs. Not a penny of this settlement was for the "$500,000.00" that was against the Mayor for Harassment.<BR/><BR/>According to Mayor Trainer she had given the papers this information but it was not printed.Donna Pitcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01938591277088755092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-78778484881636602972007-10-31T07:22:00.000-07:002007-10-31T07:22:00.000-07:00"I find it still pretty funny that people moan & g..."I find it still pretty funny that people moan & groan at the fact Mayor Trainer is Mayor.<BR/><BR/>Their is a reason for it people, SHE WAS VOTED IN. <BR/><BR/>Now can the bashing stop? Wonder how each & everyone of you would do under a microscope> Be glad your not"!<BR/><BR/>I couldn't agree with you more on that statement!Donna Pitcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01938591277088755092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-28654434805666788782007-10-31T01:58:00.000-07:002007-10-31T01:58:00.000-07:00Donna said:I have not put my stamp of approval on ...Donna said:<BR/><BR/>I have not put my stamp of approval on anything. What I have stated is that there was no due process. If I was being sued, I would want the opportunity to defend myself in a court of law! So why did the county not defend itself? The Mayor was being sued for $500,000.00 dollars, while the county was being sued for the remainder of the 3.1 Million dollars if my memory is correct.<BR/><BR/>Sorry Donna.....Your memory is not correct. The amount was "Lawsuit of 1.375 million dollars filed on May 8, 2007 against Mayor Marie Trainer ." Donna, you really need to do your homework.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-80851446013962738102007-10-30T02:40:00.000-07:002007-10-30T02:40:00.000-07:00Donna, why didn't Trainer advise her lawyer that s...Donna, why didn't Trainer advise her lawyer that she did not want to settle and then make sure it went to the courts. Could it be that she was advised by her lawyer to settle because there was no chance to that the assistant would not win? If I was not guilty of something I would have pushed it right to the limit and made the plaintiff pay the costs. It would be interesting to see if the County and Trainer had the same position of defense evidence in reply to the assistant's claims. My guess is most likely not.<BR/>Like one of the previous comments, I feel it was a "slam dunk."<BR/>Also like one of the other previous comments , why are you the one that is getting Trainer's message out? Is Trainer trying to do damage control? If the so called `4 lawyers ``decided in the best interests of all to settle, there must have been a lot against Trainer that could be proved in a court of law, wouldn't you think. My guess would be that `4 lawyers``<BR/>concluded that the assistant was most creditable in her case and Trainer was not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-65738006757290364202007-10-29T03:23:00.000-07:002007-10-29T03:23:00.000-07:00The majority did not vote her in. The majority put...The majority did not vote her in. The majority put their vote on Corbett and Bergstrand. Trainer is incompetent, IMHO.<BR/>She is an embarrassment and has her foot in her mouth more than not, IMHO.<BR/>She is constantly in trouble and doing nothing to put our County ahead, IMHO.<BR/>Yes, she is voted in and there is nothing that can be done about that until another 3 + years. So we are stuck with her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-33504123898351031732007-10-28T20:19:00.000-07:002007-10-28T20:19:00.000-07:00I find it still pretty funny that people moan & gr...I find it still pretty funny that people moan & groan at the fact Mayor Trainer is Mayor.<BR/><BR/>Their is a reason for it people, SHE WAS VOTED IN. <BR/><BR/>Now can the bashing stop? Wonder how each & everyone of you would do under a microscope> Be glad your not!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-37829194759290163462007-10-28T12:08:00.000-07:002007-10-28T12:08:00.000-07:00My guess is that the only one working for Haldiman...My guess is that the only one working for Haldimand County elected or bureaucrat that probably should no be fired is the newly hired CAO since he hasn't had enough time to screw up.<BR/><BR/>Fire them all including council and start from scratch. They are a useless bunch.<BR/><BR/>And by the way while your at it fire the OPP as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-82169994023499386622007-10-28T08:29:00.000-07:002007-10-28T08:29:00.000-07:00RE: Donna comments: "Donna Pitcher said... I ha...RE: Donna comments:<BR/> "Donna Pitcher said...<BR/><BR/> I have said in previous comments that this blog was about "due process", not saying that anyone one party was innocent or guilty.<BR/><BR/> I don't think it really matters where I received the information about the "verdict is in", but one thing for sure for me is that if this information is bogus, I won't rely or trust that source again will I?"<BR/><BR/>I will gamble that your information is not correct. You have one side of the story and then there is the truth. I will wait for that and I will be interested in your comments at that point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-13898297546091397992007-10-28T08:23:00.000-07:002007-10-28T08:23:00.000-07:00I had not seen it before "anonymous" posted it her...I had not seen it before "anonymous" posted it here and I am thankful that I have the information.<BR/>The remarks Trainer has made are sure of a negative tone. <BR/>I wonder if the Councillors and Staff councur with her comments?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-81594488981332819842007-10-28T08:21:00.000-07:002007-10-28T08:21:00.000-07:00I have said in previous comments that this blog wa...I have said in previous comments that this blog was about "due process", not saying that anyone one party was innocent or guilty.<BR/><BR/>I don't think it really matters where I received the information about the "verdict is in", but one thing for sure for me is that if this information is bogus, I won't rely or trust that source again will I?Donna Pitcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01938591277088755092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-90621035050367627332007-10-28T08:15:00.000-07:002007-10-28T08:15:00.000-07:00"To suggest a mere two weeks ago that Caledonians ..."To suggest a mere two weeks ago that Caledonians "hate" the O.P.P officers (the extra officers) and that all the officers only look at their time here as a cash grab is positively irresponsible and quite possibly slanderous or libellous."<BR/><BR/>I have been in Caledonia many, many times, and have had many opportunities to speak with the OPP officers there. I would never put them in this category. I have several times said to an officer, I am glad I am not in "your shoes".<BR/><BR/>"Did no-one ever see this article before today?"<BR/><BR/>I certainly hadn't seen this article before today. Thanks for the link!Donna Pitcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01938591277088755092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-71488519879357764892007-10-28T08:13:00.000-07:002007-10-28T08:13:00.000-07:00Donna in reply to your comment:"If you were to cal...Donna in reply to your comment:<BR/><BR/>"If you were to call Mayor Trainer and ask her how many times I have called her, and what my concerns where, you would learn that my issues are "business" only related! As I have stated before I "do not" have representation on council as my elected Ward Counillor does not return my phone calls, so it may seem that I speak to her often, but I have no one else to call."<BR/><BR/>You seem to be advocating for the Mayor pretty hard in your topic, "Haldimand "The Verdict is In" and by your own admission "so it may seem that I speak to her often, but I have no one else to call." It would appear that she is the one that gave you the information your topic .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-34963649908953500682007-10-28T08:07:00.000-07:002007-10-28T08:07:00.000-07:00Well maybe someone should bring that article to th...Well maybe someone should bring that article to the attention of Council, the CAO and Julian Fantino.<BR/><BR/>To suggest a mere two weeks ago that Caledonians "hate" the O.P.P officers (the extra officers) and that all the officers only look at their time here as a cash grab is positively irresponsible and quite possibly slanderous or libellous.<BR/><BR/>And yet she says nothing about McHale and his destructive actions. ??<BR/><BR/>To use the term "Cashedonia" even a few mere weeks ago is so condascending and damaging that I hope Fantino goes ballistic in the media over her pathetic behaviour and asks publicly why it is that they should renew the contract. If I was Fantino I'd tell her to shove it!<BR/><BR/>Did no-one ever see this article before today?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-91329682250405713542007-10-28T08:06:00.000-07:002007-10-28T08:06:00.000-07:00"The new CAO didn't start until the beginning of O..."The new CAO didn't start until the beginning of October. I hear that he is very good at what he does!"<BR/><BR/>And what position will you take if he gets to know all the players at the County and then Trainer starts to say negative things about him? Will he be worng as welljust because Trainer says so?<BR/><BR/>I am going to the open house on November the 1st to meet the new CAO. Until I meet the new CAO, I have nothing to say about him, good or bad!<BR/><BR/>I don't agree that the Mayor or Council at anytime should publicly denounce any staff to the public, in fact the County does have staff/council protocal for this.<BR/><BR/>I have never taken a point of view on "just" the opinion of the Mayor. I have asked her questions, and did a verbatim of her answers.<BR/><BR/>If you were to call Mayor Trainer and ask her how many times I have called her, and what my concerns where, you would learn that my issues are "business" only related! As I have stated before I "do not" have representation on council as my elected Ward Counillor does not return my phone calls, so it may seem that I speak to her often, but I have no one else to call.Donna Pitcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01938591277088755092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-20483635204112538282007-10-28T07:59:00.000-07:002007-10-28T07:59:00.000-07:00anonymous, thanks for that link.Does Trainer never...anonymous, thanks for that link.<BR/>Does Trainer never shut up the negative rhetoric about Caledonia?<BR/>What police force would want to wade into dealing with her as a Mayor, IMO?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-64048466202687522782007-10-28T07:55:00.000-07:002007-10-28T07:55:00.000-07:00Donna, I don't receive the Ancaster News either. I...Donna, I don't receive the Ancaster News either. I just ran across the article. I'm surprised no-one had seen it but it is a horrible example of Trainer undermining things yet again. She is living in the past and as Mayor, it's quite irresponsible to keep bringing past incidents up when it is clearly her job and responsibility to heal things and move ahead in a positive manner. She is so hateful in her heart it is shocking.<BR/><BR/>If I were the O.P.P I'd be asking her for an apology over this article and suggesting that Caledonians "hate" the O.P.P and that they look at it as a quick cash grab ie: she used the term "Cashedonia"<BR/><BR/>it's really bizarre that she keeps doing this.<BR/><BR/>here is the URL to the story<BR/><BR/>http://www.ancasternews.com/an/news/news_888443.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-8302782922823351982007-10-28T07:49:00.000-07:002007-10-28T07:49:00.000-07:00Donna your comment:"The new CAO didn't start until...Donna your comment:<BR/><BR/>"The new CAO didn't start until the beginning of October. I hear that he is very good at what he does!"<BR/><BR/>And what position will you take if he gets to know all the players at the County and then Trainer starts to say negative things about him? Will he be worng as welljust because Trainer says so?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-88367823201851010762007-10-28T07:46:00.000-07:002007-10-28T07:46:00.000-07:00Great comments above "anonymous"and the rest of th...Great comments above "anonymous"and the rest of the info that you posted. Sounds like you do your research of facts versus fiction. RE; Trainer: <BR/> "Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/> It's stuff like this that gets Trainer in trouble. She has no self-control or sense of diplomacy. Just when council and the O.P.P are working good together and the new CAO has a good past working relationship with Fantino, Trainer once again spews more crap. "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-38265498317044297412007-10-28T07:44:00.000-07:002007-10-28T07:44:00.000-07:00"It's stuff like this that gets Trainer in trouble..."It's stuff like this that gets Trainer in trouble. She has no self-control or sense of diplomacy. Just when council and the O.P.P are working good together and the new CAO has a good past working relationship with Fantino, Trainer once again spews more crap."<BR/><BR/>The new CAO didn't start until the beginning of October. I hear that he is very good at what he does!<BR/><BR/>I don't receive the Ancaster News, but I certainly agree with you that these statements by the Mayor are "unacceptable"!Donna Pitcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01938591277088755092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-5686636206384000032007-10-28T07:40:00.000-07:002007-10-28T07:40:00.000-07:00I also do not see what the Mayor has to offer in s...I also do not see what the Mayor has to offer in support of your case against the Regional News.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-28971790524977152482007-10-28T07:37:00.000-07:002007-10-28T07:37:00.000-07:00"That is interesting, and you have an actual trans..."That is interesting, and you have an actual transcript that this was all that was said by Trainer?"<BR/><BR/>This was the "only" question "I" had for the Mayor. The lawyer for the regional did start asking some personal questions to the Mayor regarding our relationship, but the Judge put an "immediate" stop to that questioning, as it did not relate to the case.<BR/><BR/>I do not have transcripts, but they are available. The court papers and my settlement and the Judge's comments are also available to the public.<BR/><BR/>I have the documentation from the Judge here, if you are interested about this case and want more information, I would be more than happy to meet with you and share the information. I have listed my phone number above.<BR/><BR/>DonnaDonna Pitcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01938591277088755092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-42662632232482456112007-10-28T07:36:00.000-07:002007-10-28T07:36:00.000-07:00It's stuff like this that gets Trainer in trouble....It's stuff like this that gets Trainer in trouble. She has no self-control or sense of diplomacy. Just when council and the O.P.P are working good together and the new CAO has a good past working relationship with Fantino, Trainer once again spews more crap.<BR/><BR/>The following excerpts are from the Ancaster News Sept. 28 (just a few weeks ago) Pay particular attention to the term "Cashedonia" she was quoted as saying. Is that not a McHale term? Oh, I forgot, she meets with him.Also, in the second quote, I see she used the word "hate" when describing what Caledonians think of the police. What?? Someone needs to muzzle this woman for good and pass a law that it is illegal for her to speak in public ever again.<BR/><BR/>1)<BR/>"Haldimand Mayor Marie Trainer told Hamilton Community News the decision to tender the contract reflects residents' anger over the behaviour of a supplementary OPP force brought in to police First Nations dispute over the Douglas Creek Estates land in Caledonia. Although the situation is improving, local perception is that many of the additional officers have taken the natives' side and viewed their stay in "Cashedonia" as little more than a chance to make extra pay, she said."<BR/><BR/>2)<BR/>"The impression was that there was two-tier justice. If there was a confrontation, they had their backs to the natives, protecting the natives from the Haldimand residents," Ms. Trainer said. "That made people mad, just that gesture of facing the non-natives who were actually paying the taxes for them being there. There was just a whole bunch of things that just made them hate that extra force."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-27203875441613789522007-10-28T07:28:00.001-07:002007-10-28T07:28:00.001-07:00Hmmmmm, your comment:"YES. I had one witness in co...Hmmmmm, your comment:<BR/>"YES. I had one witness in court, and the reason why I asked the Mayor was, that the reporter had stated that I was "Harassing the Mayor"! My one question to the Mayor in court.<BR/><BR/>Have I ever Harassed you Mayor Trainer?<BR/><BR/>Her answer....No! she then left the courtroom."<BR/><BR/>That is interesting, and you have an actual transcript that this was all that was said by Trainer?<BR/><BR/>And asking the Mayor that particular question has what to do with the Regional News? I do not see the connection really.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com