tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post6312897956178665093..comments2024-03-22T02:18:33.649-07:00Comments on Haldimand's Unheard Voice: Haldimand "Toby Barrett's Private Members Bill, Truth about Caledonia Act, 2009"Donna Pitcherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01938591277088755092noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-24565184175938457572009-02-17T20:34:00.000-08:002009-02-17T20:34:00.000-08:00Thanks for your comments everyone.I will respond t...Thanks for your comments everyone.<BR/><BR/>I will respond to one question, then I will be writing a blog about today.<BR/><BR/>This was posted on my blog this morning without any any other information. No one that I called seemed to know what was going on, was this in support of Toby or Canace; <BR/><BR/>"Doug Fleming has called for a rally at Toby's office for Tuesday morning at 10 am. Anyone interested can meet Doug at the Canadian Tire for 8:45 am to car pool over to Toby's office. Doug will leave at 9 am."<BR/><BR/>As most of you know I support Toby's Private Members Bill and I support Ken Hewitt's Petition, so the answer to this question;<BR/><BR/>Donna;<BR/><BR/>This is posted om Mchale's message board. Say it isn't so Donna! I never thought I'd see the day you fell under the spell of McHale. <BR/><BR/>so, is it true or a lie?<BR/><BR/>"Rumor has it that CANACE, Donna Pitcher, and several prominent Caledonia residents showed up at Toby Barrett's office this morning. Can anyone confirm this?"<BR/><BR/>I have no idea what is posted on Mchales board I don't usually go there, but I can tell you that I will check it out before I write my blog tonight. <BR/><BR/>The answer is YES I did go to Simcoe this morning (I have a rule that I don't blog about something unless I am there to witness it first hand, and that is what I went there for to see what was going on) and I was not there supporting Gary Mchale and his Canace Members.Donna Pitcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01938591277088755092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-72410486875331304832009-02-17T19:15:00.000-08:002009-02-17T19:15:00.000-08:00There is only one question to be answered. Do you ...There is only one question to be answered. Do you support the petition or not. Who cares who started it or who is involved? Why do people have to divide up into groups because they don't like this person or that person? The same thing happened with the Class Action and almost everything else in Caledonia. People refused to get involved or help because they didn't like someone, meanwhile their town has serious problems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-50768542446842760702009-02-17T18:41:00.000-08:002009-02-17T18:41:00.000-08:00It should be said that there are many red warning ...It should be said that there are many red warning flags flying right now in Caledonia regarding the Hewitt/Brown petition, Toby Barrett's private members bill and Gary McHale's involvement in all of the above.<BR/><BR/>A lot of questions need to be answered. Tomorrow at Queen's Park in the media gallery will hopefully provide some much needed clarification.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-90177235048049169452009-02-17T14:26:00.000-08:002009-02-17T14:26:00.000-08:00Donna;This is posted om Mchale's message board...Donna;<BR/><BR/>This is posted om Mchale's message board. Say it isn't so Donna! I never thought I'd see the day you fell under the spell of McHale. <BR/><BR/>so, is it true or a lie?<BR/><BR/><BR/>"Rumor has it that CANACE, Donna Pitcher, and several prominent Caledonia residents showed up at Toby Barrett's office this morning. Can anyone confirm this?"<BR/><BR/>http://www.marchforfreedom.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=8a6ba770bea08018246bca9b7b91c7ad&topic=382.0Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-4962814912936890622009-02-17T13:55:00.000-08:002009-02-17T13:55:00.000-08:00Post from above by "Anonymous": guess you include ...Post from above by "Anonymous":<BR/><BR/> guess you include in Gary's sheep the 1800+ votes he received from Caledonia - more votes then what Grice or the Mayor received in Caledonia.<BR/><BR/>By the way, not one of the media outlets ran Toby's press release about his inquiry wording. Wonder why the Regional, Sachem, Dunnville Chronicle and Simcoe Reformer all decided not to ran Toby's press release?<BR/><BR/>The last time I checked, Hewitt's petition was being signed by anyone in Ontario. Maybe Hewitt and others have finally realized that they need support and help from people outside of Haldimand.<BR/><BR/>Haldimand had their time to send a wake up call and they did, McHale received 5000 votes.<BR/><BR/>Not bad when you see it is the same few dozen people who claim McHale only has the support of 40 people. I guess these 40 people voted 125 times each.<BR/><BR/>February 17, 2009 11:48 AM <BR/>_____________<BR/><BR/>Craig Grice and Marie Trainer were on the last federal election ballot? I think not.<BR/><BR/>Hi Gary...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-58516678703035357822009-02-17T13:43:00.000-08:002009-02-17T13:43:00.000-08:00"It is time for Haldimand to wake up and send a me..."It is time for Haldimand to wake up and send a message to this group of troublemakers, that they are no longer welcome in their efforts to control,manipulate and intimidate media, residents and the politicians in Haldimand for their own financial benefit."<BR/>Quote from above could be said about SN as well.<BR/>If it weren't for Jeff's trial, Ken wouldn't have started the petition for an Inquiry. That trial unleashed Fantino's support letter for Powless.<BR/>Either support or don't. No one genuinely concerned with the issues would take offense at any effort to get this thing done, nor waste time name calling when we all have done something to help rectify this mess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-46768400566211946192009-02-17T11:48:00.000-08:002009-02-17T11:48:00.000-08:00I guess you include in Gary's sheep the 1800+ vote...I guess you include in Gary's sheep the 1800+ votes he received from Caledonia - more votes then what Grice or the Mayor received in Caledonia.<BR/><BR/>By the way, not one of the media outlets ran Toby's press release about his inquiry wording. Wonder why the Regional, Sachem, Dunnville Chronicle and Simcoe Reformer all decided not to ran Toby's press release?<BR/><BR/>The last time I checked, Hewitt's petition was being signed by anyone in Ontario. Maybe Hewitt and others have finally realized that they need support and help from people outside of Haldimand.<BR/><BR/>Haldimand had their time to send a wake up call and they did, McHale received 5000 votes.<BR/><BR/>Not bad when you see it is the same few dozen people who claim McHale only has the support of 40 people. I guess these 40 people voted 125 times each.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-74889814064124779212009-02-17T08:23:00.000-08:002009-02-17T08:23:00.000-08:00When will there be a rally in Caledonia to oust Ga...When will there be a rally in Caledonia to oust Gary McHale for good from interfering in citizen's matters?<BR/><BR/>What exactly does HE NOT want to be the boss of and profit from?<BR/>Him and his little group of sheep are becoming really old news.<BR/>Is there anyone left who he hasn't gone after publicly because they refuse to blindly follow and take orders from him?<BR/><BR/>Last I heard, he and his wife don't live in Haldimand and neither do most of his cohorts.<BR/><BR/>LaPratte<BR/>Vandermaas<BR/>Parkinson<BR/><BR/>It's time for Haldimand to wake up and send a message to this group of troublemakers that they are no longer welcome in their efforts to control, manipulate and intimidate media, residents and politicians in Haldimand for their own financial benefit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-72133544826672225462009-02-17T05:48:00.000-08:002009-02-17T05:48:00.000-08:00Since when does the Regional News speak for all of...Since when does the Regional News speak for all of the people of Caledonia, Haldimand and Ontario? They certainly don't speak for me! The Regional News does not necessarily print the "TRUTH" but rather the "TRUTH ACCORDING TO BILL AND CHRIS". Oh yeah I forgot and Gary and Doug.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-59703749886357565662009-02-17T05:11:00.000-08:002009-02-17T05:11:00.000-08:00Our suggested wording for Mr. Barrett's Inquiry - ...Our suggested wording for Mr. Barrett's Inquiry - http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/documents/Truth-CaledoniaAct.pdf<BR/><BR/><BR/>This Wed. Toby Barrett is going to introduce a Private Members Bill regarding an inquiry into the events in Caledonia.<BR/><BR/>The current wording of Mr. Barrett’s Bill does NOT have support of the People of Caledonia, Haldimand or Ontario. The greatest proof of this fact is seen by the way the Regional News (the largest media outlet in Haldimand County) refused to print Mr. Barrett’s call for an Inquiry but they did print a story entitled Please no more POLITICAL inquiries and you can read this story here - <BR/>http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/updates/090211regional.html<BR/><BR/><BR/>The People want a clear inquiry into the illegal actions of the OPP. Our suggestion for a Bill that would have support of the community can be found here - <BR/> http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/documents/Truth-CaledoniaAct.pdf<BR/><BR/><BR/>It is our hope that Mr. Barrett and the PC Party will rewrite their Bill to better reflect the will of the People.<BR/><BR/>If not, then on Wed. a group of residents will arrive at Queen’s Park to denounce Mr. Barrett’s Bill..<BR/><BR/>Gary McHaleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-73170708991215594842009-02-16T17:47:00.000-08:002009-02-16T17:47:00.000-08:00Doug Fleming has called for a rally at Toby's offi...Doug Fleming has called for a rally at Toby's office for Tuesday morning at 10 am.<BR/><BR/>Anyone interested can meet Doug at the Canadian Tire for 8:45 am to car pool over to Toby's office. Doug will leave at 9 am.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-66826003141382075062009-02-16T16:37:00.000-08:002009-02-16T16:37:00.000-08:00I don't know why there is worry about CANACE, the ...I don't know why there is worry about CANACE, the press are not interested in what they have to say. So what they are against Toby it is their opinions and they have the right. Just don't support it. CANACE would have to have the support of hundreds of people from Caledonia in a very short period of time to have any credibility!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-86473918845793687122009-02-16T12:45:00.000-08:002009-02-16T12:45:00.000-08:00Sign the petition. All efforts to put pressure on ...Sign the petition. All efforts to put pressure on McGuinty are worthwhile.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-70827623942742258582009-02-16T12:33:00.000-08:002009-02-16T12:33:00.000-08:00What Toby is doing is not the same as what the pet...What Toby is doing is not the same as what the petition is asking for. If people would just keep things in perspective maybe more would get done. As far as Mchale in Queens Park on Wednesday it too funny. He is against Tobys private members bill so what? He has signed the petition written by Ken Hewitt and that petition I believe is up to around 7,000, this petition will have more power than a private members bill. When was the last time a private members bill went through? Not easy, and this one will not go through, but what it does is pressure the government and sometimes thats all we can do. Don't stop the pressure. Sign the petition, support Toby.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-75087051995868926472009-02-16T11:42:00.000-08:002009-02-16T11:42:00.000-08:00And herein lies the root of the problem, too many ...And herein lies the root of the problem, too many people want too many solutions to too many issues and nothing gets resolved. This posting started out as a call to support Toby Barrett's inquiry into the Caledonia debacle, led to a poor white woman being mistreated by police and her advice to stop whining about history, then criticism of a new holiday followed by a call to arms by McHale's Army (the navy apparently got washed downriver by the recent flood) to go to Queen's Park and rally against Toby's inquiry!!!!!!!!!! Can anyone really wonder why nothing ever gets resolved??????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-67749395100107550522009-02-16T08:39:00.000-08:002009-02-16T08:39:00.000-08:00McHale is calling for a Rally against Toby Barrett...McHale is calling for a Rally against Toby Barrett's Inquiry at Queen's Park this Wed claiming it is not what the people wanted when they signed Hewitt's petition.<BR/><BR/>http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/documents/TobyInquiry.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-66428457384107087062009-02-16T08:38:00.000-08:002009-02-16T08:38:00.000-08:00I understand all the issues that the people in thi...I understand all the issues that the people in this area need answers to. <BR/>Does the Province stand behind the legal deeds of landowners????<BR/>Does the Province by not enforcing the law in regards to native tresspass, influence the police???<BR/>Does the Province turn a blind eye to race-based policing especially when the police witness crimes being committed????<BR/>These are examples of those unanswered questions.<BR/>However, at Ipperwash, there was only one question to be solved "How did Dudley George die and how to avoid this in future land claim disputes" People this was a narrow margin of investigation and took four years and twenty-six million dollars. Since law enforcement or lack of it that is perceived to be unfair, the question for this Inquiry should be as Ken Hewitt and Dave Brown wrote the petition and for which the signatures were signed. Make it simple.<BR/>Ask the question as directly as possible. I signed the petition because of the discriminatory and detrimental policing policies that were literally carved in stone by the Ipperwash Inquiry recommendations on aboriginal land claim disputes. If policing is at fault here, then the Inquiry should prove that and that alone as the Petition requested.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-84800929900037724742009-02-16T06:44:00.000-08:002009-02-16T06:44:00.000-08:00Thanks for this post Donna, I have emailed Toby wi...Thanks for this post Donna, I have emailed Toby with my support, something needs to be done for all parties involved! I don't know why this has gone the way of holidays? This has nothing to do with today, it has to do with finding the truth and exposing the improper involvement of all the government levels, starting right here in Haldimand County!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-53707440730665732112009-02-16T06:09:00.000-08:002009-02-16T06:09:00.000-08:00What a ridiculous holiday this is. Vote for me and...What a ridiculous holiday this is. Vote for me and I'll give you a day off in February! People are so gullible. I wonder just how much this day will end up costing consumers in the long run. We're not all government employees, teachers and bankers who get paid no matter what! Lots of folks are paid by the hour and need the income from today to pay their bills. Now they've lost a days wages in this already compromised economical environment. Not all families can afford to head for Blue Mountain for a skiing weekend, to Niagara Falls for a fun filled weekend at buffets and the roulette table nor can many families afford to take a few relaxing days at Great Wolf Lodge. Families are now forced to sit in the house (after all it's February in Canada)and the price of gas and all and stare vacuously at the TV or computer and worry about how they're going to handle this lost pay day. Elizabeth HutchisonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-20330360875094500322009-02-16T04:54:00.000-08:002009-02-16T04:54:00.000-08:00If people were to "stop whining about history real...If people were to "stop whining about history real and imagined" there would be no more talk of the holocaust, no more need for a remembrance day here or a veterans day in the U.S., no Canada Day, no Independence Day, etc. Is this really what you want Elizabeth?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6169541274837140117.post-24426739172581881752009-02-15T22:59:00.000-08:002009-02-15T22:59:00.000-08:00I'm sorry, we don't need another inquiry. We simpl...I'm sorry, we don't need another inquiry. We simply need to enforce existing laws. We need to be treated as equals. It should make no difference what your genetic back ground is. If you break the law, you pay the price. Our police officers are not peace keepers. They are enforcers of the law. As tax payers, we don't need to foot the cost of yet another useless inquiry. As residents of Haldimand County, we don't need more delays and back peddling. We need action using laws already in existence. We're dying here and all that is offered is another tax payer sponsored inquiry. The Ipperwash Inquiry was simply to embarrass Mike Harris. Ask those who still suffer in Ipperwash. Natives need to take their legitimate land claims, if there are any, to Ottawa. Leave innocent communities alone. Stop whining about history, real and imagined. Elizabeth HutchisonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com