Haldimand "CANACE, I Speak for Myself"
Well I had quite an interesting day today. It all started out when I checked my emails and found the following posts on my blog;
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"Haldimand "Toby Barrett's Private Members Bill, Tr...": Doug Fleming has called for a rally at Toby's office for Tuesday morning at 10 am. Anyone interested can meet Doug at the Canadian Tire for 8:45 am to car pool over to Toby's office. Doug will leave at 9 am.
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"Haldimand "Toby Barrett's Private Members Bill, Tr...": Our suggested wording for Mr. Barrett's Inquiry - http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/documents/Truth-CaledoniaAct.pdf
This Wed. Toby Barrett is going to introduce a Private Members Bill regarding an inquiry into the events in Caledonia.The current wording of Mr. Barrett’s Bill does NOT have support of the People of Caledonia, Haldimand or Ontario.
The greatest proof of this fact is seen by the way the Regional News (the largest media outlet in Haldimand County) refused to print Mr. Barrett’s call for an Inquiry but they did print a story entitled Please no more POLITICAL inquiries and you can read this story here - http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/updates/090211regional.html
Written by Gary McHale!
The People want a clear inquiry into the illegal actions of the OPP. Our suggestion for a Bill that would have support of the community can be found here -
http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/documents/Truth-CaledoniaAct.pdf
It is our hope that Mr. Barrett and the PC Party will rewrite their Bill to better reflect the will of the People. If not, then on Wed. a group of residents will arrive at Queen’s Park to denounce Mr. Barrett’s Bill..
Gary McHale Posted by Anonymous to Haldimand's Unheard Voice at February 17, 2009.
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"Haldimand "Toby Barrett's Private Members Bill, Tr...": Donna; This is posted on Mchale's message board. Say it isn't so Donna! I never thought I'd see the day you fell under the spell of McHale. so, is it true or a lie?"Rumor has it that CANACE, Donna Pitcher, and several prominent Caledonia residents showed up at Toby Barrett's office this morning. Can anyone confirm this?"
I did confirm that the following was posted on McHales board;
Rumor has it that CANACE, Donna Pitcher, and several prominent Caledonia residents showed up at Toby Barrett's office this morning. Can anyone confirm this?
This was posted by anonymous on McHales board and there has been nothing said about their protest today. I find that highly unusual, but what better way to get people to wonder what the hell is going on!
Well I will tell you that I did drive to Simcoe this morning and arrived at around 9:45am. At that time I didn't see anyone and thought that maybe this was just a joke. As I stated in my reply to all the posts on my last blog I couldn't find out what Doug Fleming was doing. I didn't know if he was in support of Toby or Gary McHale. So I had to go and find out for myself!
The OPP had obviously got wind of what was going on as well. I still haven't figured out how they new about it but they were there waiting. I was parked about a block and a half away from Toby's office.
At about 10:15am I got out of my truck and walked down the street to see if I could see anyone. Gary McHale. Christine McHale, Jeff Parkinson, Merlyn Kinrade and a few others, were standing on the sidewalk on the opposite side of the street from Toby's office.
After about half an hour they walked across the street and stood in front of Toby's office with signs, I don't know what the signs said because I really wasn't interested. What I was interested in was how many people were there and why they were there. I counted "8" people and they were all in support of Gary McHale and his opinion that Toby Barrett needs to rewrite his Private Members Bill.
So why did I go? Well that one is simple. I am curious, and I like to see things first hand before I blog about an issue.
Now I know that there are quite a few people out there that are really upset at what Gary McHale and the members of Canace are doing. But be clear here that today this rally was "8" people. So the way I look at it was just that "8" people that are of the personal opinion that what Toby Barrett is trying to do is wrong. Do I care? No! We all have the right to our personal opinions and we all have the right to peaceful protest!
What Gary McHale and the members of Canace do not have the right to do is state that they are speaking on my behalf, or for that matter on behalf of the majority of residents of Caledonia and Haldimand!
The way I see it is that Gary McHale personally feels he has this right as he keeps saying that he got the majority of votes in Caledonia in the last Federal Election. He keeps stating that he received around (10,000 votes should be 10% not 10,000 ) 10% of the vote and this seems to give him the right to speak on our behalf! Not on my behalf he doesn't, I voted for Toby Barrett, and that was never a secret!
What I also found very disturbing was the fact that he has stated the following about the Regional Newspaper;
" The current wording of Mr. Barrett’s Bill does NOT have support of the People of Caledonia, Haldimand or Ontario. The greatest proof of this fact is seen by the way the Regional News (the largest media outlet in Haldimand County) refused to print Mr. Barrett’s call for an Inquiry but they did print a story entitled Please no more POLITICAL inquiries" (written by Gary Mchale).
So is Gary McHale speaking on behalf of the Regional Newspaper now?
Has the Regional Newspaper become "politically" involved?
Has the Regional Newspaper taken sides?
Will the Regional Newspaper be trusted by the residents of Haldimand County when people find out that they fully support Gary McHale and his personal opinions, which Gary McHale seems to think that they are ours as well?
The Regional Newspaper is supported by their advertising dollars, and is delivered "free" to every home in Haldimand County. How will their "advertisers" feel about the papers personal involvement with Gary McHale?
Well I could go on and on but I won't. You will have a chance to have your own opinions on the matter.
I did forget to mention that I am not interested in Gary McHales new "wording" for Toby Barretts Private Members Bill so I never went into the file to read it. But I did post it above if you are interested.
One thing I can say for sure is this. When I did my protest on the Dunnville bridge for "3" days, it was my "personal" protest, it was my "personal" opinion and I never stated that I was doing this on behalf of the residents of Haldimand County, I would have been a fool if I had.
So just remember that Gary McHale and Canace today protested on behalf of "8" people! Gary McHale does not have a "petition" signed by anyone in support of what they did today! So what about tomorrow? Will Gary McHale go to Toronto? Will they travel all that way with "8" people?
I say go for it Gary McHale, you have the right!
Good post Donna! I am very relieved that you are not working with Gary Mchale. I'll bet that the Regional Newspaper doesn't even know what he has said. Someone should let them know. I can see companies pulling their advertising. I for one will not even open that paper until they clarify what Gary has said as the truth! Trash!
ReplyDelete"It is our hope that Mr. Barrett and the PC Party will rewrite their Bill to better reflect the will of the People"
ReplyDeleteGary has no idea what the will of the people is!
8 people? that is the will of 8 people. You stated that well Donna!
I always knew that the Regional Newspaper was slanted. Thanks to Gary Mchale for letting us in on the truth. I am sure that he will put their business in a different light.
ReplyDeleteThanks for clarifying that Donna. It was an important question in my opinion and you have answered it beautifully.
ReplyDeleteI also have to question this affiliation the Regional News has with Mr. McHale and this questionable group he started. In fact I notice there has been some talk in various message forums lately about the content of the Regional News.
8 people huh? That's twice as many as I thought would show up.
So, seriously, 8 people.
let's list them
Gary
Christine
Doug
Merlyn
Jeff
plus three.
So really, the five of those clowns attracted three people and most likely the three came with them.
I read your opening post Donna and I agree with all your points.
ReplyDeleteGary's twisted logic that because The Regional News doesn't print something, then it's "proof" that people of Caledonia, Haldimand and Ontario don't support Toby.
But an article in there by (Gary himself!!) does constitute proof that Hewitt's version is what is wanted ????
What??? Did I read that right?
Is McHale delusional or maybe perhaps getting really desperate ?
I hope someone has warned Hewitt about who is trying to hang on to his skirt.
Either Hewitt should come out and publicly denounce any association with McHale and his 6-7 followers or Hewitt should support Barrett publicly just to shut McHale up and shake him off his back.
Perhaps Hewitt will be at Queens Park today sitting with Barrett supporting the new bill.
wee, it looks like McHale and his group are going to be standing out in the rain all by themselves at the rally.
ReplyDeleteHewitt and some other woman are going to be at a press conference supporting toby Barrett.
So, where does this leave McHale?
Looking rather stupid I'd say.
I failed to remember to post the link for the article about the press conference.
ReplyDeletehttp://cd989.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=15409
Public Inquiry about Land Claims Being Called by Barrett
Posted by Kate Buick
Local MPP Toby Barrett is set to introduce a private members bill into the legislature calling for a public inquiry into local land claim disputes.
Barrett, along with the organizer of a petition calling for a Caledonia public inquiry, Ken Hewitt and the webmaster of Have Your Say Caledonia Judy Laszlo, will hold a press conference in Queens Park outlining the details of the bill.
Barrett will ask the Premier to recommend the Lieutenant Governor to inquire into and report on the administration of justice, law enforcement and ownership of land.
The press conference is scheduled for 1pm today.
It is this petty attitude of personalities that have kept this going for 3 years. Mr. McHale wanted Mr. Barrett's document to reflect the wording of Ken Hewitt's petition. The number of folks gathered at Barrett's office may simply reflect the number of folks who couldn't make a Tuesday a.m. rally. I no longer hold out any hope for this community. After 3 years of being victimized, we still squabble among ourselves. Mr.Barrett's wording was toothless; asked for another political inquiry into the Liberal's involvement. Canac wanted Mr. Barrett to consider re-wording his document to give it more of a bite. What difference could it possibly make to anyone if Donna went to Simcoe to see what was going on or to add her voice? And Donna, if someone isn't mature enough to use their name, then I don't think you should print their opinion.I think the lot of you need some time out. Go to your rooms! Elizabeth Hutchison
ReplyDeleteSee how careful you have to be about how you interpret the written word? The posting regarding a visit to Toby Barrett's office simply stated that a number of people including Donna Pitcher showed up there. It didn't state that they all showed up there together, or for the same reason, this was left to assumption and apparently it worked because Donna was questioned about it. Do you think this was done purposely, perhaps to discredit Donna in some way? We may never know because the writer has been very clever in their wording to avoid any possible repercussions. The lesson here is one I learned many years ago but need to remind myself of often "never assume because the word ASSUME simply makes an ASS of U and ME". Now, with that lesson in hand lets move on to the question of whether or not the Regional News is slanted in it's coverage of some local issues. As evidence of their guilt you could use the fact that they have given McHale and CANACE full coverage on all of their efforts, that Bill Jackson's columns have always slanted in their favour and last but not least the fact that Gary McHale for the past several weeks has had his own self written article published in the paper but once again, we would be assuming that this is proof that the Regional News is leaning toward "the truth according to McHale". I have a suggestion although it may still fail to prove anything. Why don't we ask them? Why not have anyone who is curious, concerned or simply inquisitive send the Regional News an email, a letter or simply give them a phone call and ask Bill Jackson and Chris Pickup "are you in support of Gary McHale, CANACE, and all they stand for"? The mailing address is 345 Argyle St. S., Caledonia N3W 1L8, Phone (905) 765-4210, Fax (905) 765-3563, email Chris Pickup at chrisp@webcraftlimited.com, or Bill Jackson at newsinfo@webcraftlimited.com. While you're at it you might want to ask if Gary McHale has been hired as a freelance writer for the paper?
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comments.
ReplyDeleteElizabeth I would like to address your post if I may.
I don't agree with you about petty attitudes. I know that some can get very petty, but this in my opinion is a difference of opinions. Canace strongly feels that Tobys bill should be worded their way. And if they feel that they must rally about this, so be it, they have the right to peaceful protest.
There will always be people that have a difference of opinion and that is what makes life so interesting. It is when those that push, shove, lie or make others "assume" about what people are thinking or doing is where it can get a bit dangerous.
I probably would have just quietly gone to this rally for my own purpose and never written about it, as I have been to almost every rally/occupation in Haldimand County.
The difference here was that my name was dragged into this and made it look like I was part of that group. Was this posted on Garys site for that reason? Who the hell knows. But what I do know is that I had to clarify that point with people that read my blog on a regular basis.
The second reason why I wrote this blog was because of what was said about the Regional Newspaper. To me this was quite serious. This was quite bold on Garys part. I emailed my blog to the Regional Newspaper last night.
Thanks to the poster above that kindly reminded us of the "never assume", you make an ass of me and you! I am not saying that the Regional Newspaper has taken this stand, I simply asked several questions in regards to if they have.
So as one poster suggested if you need to know the contact information is posted above for the Regional Newspaper.
Hi Donna;
ReplyDeleteIt was I who pointed that out to you and it's better that someone asked you directly rather than just go silent and think the worst.
McHale seems to make a habit of attaching his name to other people if he senses an opportunity to grab the limelight again. He's desperate now in my opinion.
I'm sure he will have some choice words for Hewitt and Toby later on. At least now we know that you are not affiliated with Gary or his followers.
So, again, it's good it was asked of you I think and even better that you clarified.
As for the Regional News, it's obvious to me it has been turned into a forum for CANACE now. Bill Jackson seems to have tossed all the normal standards of fair, impartial journalism right out the window. I'll be demanding that Canada Post never deliver that piece of trash into my mailbox ever again.
While it is everyone's right to express their opinions it is not anyone's right to speak for others as if they have their support.
ReplyDeleteWhat's the old saying 'You can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time'.
Your post outlines the events very well Donna and as with you the only person that speaks for me is me.
I just watched Toby on television and wish him well this afternoon with his press conference. McGuinty has already been on television denouncing the private members bill as frivolous and that the only problem in Caledonia is a Federal Land Claim problem. The very reaction of McGuinty to the potential introduction of this private members bill speaks volumes about the need for actions like Toby's and the Ken Hewitt petition.
Keep up the pressure Toby and Ken and keep speaking out Donna about those who would presume to speak for others when they do not.
Lisa Parent
No public inquiry into three-year native land dispute in Caledonia: McGuinty
ReplyDeleteBy The Canadian Press
Feb. 18, 2009
TORONTO - Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty says he won't call a public inquiry into an aboriginal land dispute in Caledonia, Ont., that's dragged on for nearly three years.
McGuinty says it's a matter of federal jurisdiction, but the province will try to keep the two sides together to help settle the dispute. The Opposition is tabling a private member's bill today calling for a public inquiry into the occupation, which began Feb. 28, 2006, and its impact on the southern Ontario community.
McGuinty says he fully supports the Ontario Provincial Police, whose actions have come under fire by some local residents.
Conservative Peter Shurman says McGuinty is telling Caledonia homeowners to "take a hike" by dismissing calls for an inquiry.
Residents who complain that police have mishandled the dispute have circulated a petition calling for a public inquiry.
Federal Human Resources Minister Diane Finley, whose riding includes Caledonia, came under fire last month for signing the petition.
The dispute has erupted in several violent clashes between homeowners and the native protesters occupying a 40-hectare tract of land on the outskirts of Caledonia.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090218/national/ont_native_occupation
Barrett taken to task over Caledonia bill Posted By Monte Sonnenberg, SIMCOE REFORMER
ReplyDeleteFeb 18, 2009
Critics say Haldimand-Norfolk MPP Toby Barrett has missed the mark with a private member's bill calling for an inquiry into the native land dispute in Caledonia.
Several of them gathered for a protest yesterday outside Barrett's constituency office in Simcoe. The problem, they say, is that Barrett's terms-of-reference are too broad.
Barrett's private member's bill will be tabled at Queen's Park this afternoon.
The bill calls for an inquiry into justice and policing issues raised by the Caledonia standoff and related protests in Brantford, Hagersville and elsewhere.
The bill also asks a commission of inquiry "to determine the truth with respect to the ownership of land within the boundaries of the Haldimand Tract and nearby areas."
Protesters yesterday said an effective inquiry has to be more focused than this. They would prefer that an inquiry concentrate on the Ontario Provincial Police and its approach to law enforcement in Caledonia.
"We've spent 2.5 years trying to separate the law enforcement issue from the land claims issue," said Jeff Parkinson of Simcoe. "They are very different issues, and we don't want an inquiry to derail that."
Merlin Kinrade of Caledonia said a wide-ranging inquiry is not necessary. All issues related to the standoff, he said, stem from the OPP and other police services refusing to enforce the law in the face of repeated and blatant criminal wrongdoing.
Kinrade believes Barrett is asking for trouble by including Ontario's land registry system within the terms-of-reference. In doing so, Kinrade says Barrett is calling the validity of the registry into question.
"We have a land title system," Kinrade said. "Why would we ask Toby Barrett to investigate it? That's the crux of the matter exactly: Don't question the land registry system. The problem is we have a system of no law enforcement if you are native; law enforcement if you are non-native. Our group is focused on law enforcement."
The same protesters in Simcoe yesterday intend to protest at Queen's Park today.
Yesterday, Barrett said he was disappointed that the group marched outside his Simcoe office when they knew he would be in Toronto for the opening of the legislature. He is also disappointed that the group would ask for changes when the final text of his bill had been determined and sent off to the printers.
"The horse is out of the barn on this one," Barrett said. "This has been in the works for several weeks in a very public way."
Barrett consulted nearly 500 individuals affected by native land claims and a handful of lawyers before drafting his bill. The issues the bill raises reflect their concerns, Barrett said. He added that deadlines have been built into the legislation to prevent an inquiry from sprawling out of control.
"We've set a deadline for an interim report in six months and a final report in 12 months," Barrett said. "I've laid this out as efficiently as possible. I do not want a $25 million inquiry."
The dispute in Caledonia erupted three years ago when land claims activists from Six Nations occupied the 100-acre Douglas Creek Estates subdivision on the south side of town. The impasse marks its third anniversary at the end of the month.
I support an inquiry in the manner that Toby Barrett laid out.
ReplyDeleteAs far as Parkinson and Kinrade goes? They are just obsessed with their perceived power to push the police around. They need to grow up and start acting like adults instead of children. They DO NOT speak for the masses.
Barrett's bill at least has some semblance of realism and maturity.
His answer to the media today was well thought out and was a very responsible response. I'm impressed.
CANACE would do well to learn a few lessons and start acting like mature adults.
Good work in allowing us all to have a say here Donna. Thank You.
It has been pointed out repeatedly that Gary McHale speaks for Gary McHale and no one else.
ReplyDeleteHe erroneously believes that the majority of residents in Caledonia voted for him in the last federal election. That is RUBBISH! The majority of Caledonia residents voted for someone other than Gary McHale.
Very interesting !
ReplyDeleteI just read today's brand new edition of the Regional News and in the letter to the editor section, there is an entry by someone named Dennis James.
The title of his letter reads as follows.
"CANACE" Doesn't Speak For Me
(you can imagine what the content is)
So Donna, it seems you are on solid ground here in your complaints about how CANACE is doing it's business. Many people seem to be rejecting that group now and it's about time.
Good for you.
(and I would imagine McHale is going to be in a huge foul mood now over all of this, Toby, Hewitt and Lazslo but know that you have a lot of backup. Maybe he'll just finally go away now and leave the Haldimand residents to deal with any issues in a productive way.) His quest to be God and King of all things Haldimand seems to have come to a crashing halt the past few days.
Hey Donna, why must you lie?
ReplyDeleteCan you post one example of when McHale has claimed to have received 10,000 votes - just one.
Donna, your words were "He keeps stating that he received around 10,000 votes."
I'll check back to see whether you admit you lied or deleted my post or posted proof for your statement.
Hewitt and McHale were seen outside the media room at Queen's Park sharing notes and shaking hands. When the media asked Mr. Hewitt whether Mr. Barrett's Inquiry represented his petition he stated "it's a start". Toby immediately stated that Hewitt will be bringing forward his own Inquiry along with his petition in a few months.
ReplyDeleteI guess Toby's call for an Inquiry must be inadequate as another one is going to be brought forward to represent Hewitt's Petition.
Is that you already Gary? It must be because you were just on-line over at your own message forum. And we all are used to you calling everyone a liar.
ReplyDeleteQuote:
"Hey Donna, why must you lie?
Can you post one example of when McHale has claimed to have received 10,000 votes - just one.
Donna, your words were "He keeps stating that he received around 10,000 votes."
I'll check back to see whether you admit you lied or deleted my post or posted proof for your statement."
Hey Anonymous - is that you Donna trying to avoid the question.
ReplyDeleteNo it wasn't Donna.
ReplyDeleteThis is so YOU Gary to act like this. You brought it on yourself by trying to attach your name to other's efforts.
Yes, there are issues but what makes you think you can make a living off those issues? Nobody asked you so quit trying to make yourself look like a hero or martyr. You're just a pest now who gets angry when legitimate victims in this mess try to do things their own way.
People like Donna here and many others have a right to voice their own ideas without you trying to hijack them for your own agenda.
Even Dennis James told you and your followers to shut up.
You may be angry now that the glory has been taken away from you. You'll get over it in time when you start taking care of your own responsibilities in a mature way. You really need to leave everyone alone now Gary.
Mr. Hewitt at Queen's Park stated that only MP Diane Finley had signed the petition - Toby was sitting two chairs away but Hewitt didn't say Toby signed the petition. He then stated he was upset by the number of MPs and MPPs who would not support the Petition. He then stated that if Fantino could write a letter to the court to support Clyde Powless then why could not MPs and MPPs not come out and support the Petition.
ReplyDeleteToby look dumbfounded.
Thanks for your comments everyone.
ReplyDelete"I need to clarify a mistake that I made in my blog: "He keeps stating that he received around 10,000 votes and this seems to give him the right to speak on our behalf"
I should have stated 10% of the vote not 10,000 votes. I will edit my blog to reflect this. I had this information on file; Gary captured 10% of the popular vote with nearly 5,000 votes!
Regardless it dosen't change a thing!
"Mr. Hewitt at Queen's Park stated that only MP Diane Finley had signed the petition - Toby was sitting two chairs away but Hewitt didn't say Toby signed the petition. He then stated he was upset by the number of MPs and MPPs who would not support the Petition. He then stated that if Fantino could write a letter to the court to support Clyde Powless then why could not MPs and MPPs not come out and support the Petition."
ReplyDeleteToby look dumbfounded.
I am very interested in the news source that this poster got this from. I watched CH TV at 6:00, and did not see this. I will search the internet to see where it is, in the meantime if the above poster wants to clarify this information go ahead.
My understanding is the only people that are allowed into the closed circuit tv. press room, are invited guests of an MPP.
I spoke to Dennis James today and have his permission to post his letter to the editor of the Regional Newspaper;
ReplyDeleteGary McHale and the members of Canace.
I am responding to your email regarding your planned actions of arbitrarily
thwarting the efforts of Toby Barrett, Ken Hewitt and the majority of the
people of our communities.
Without malice, prejudice and with due respect for your own personal
opinions and personal agenda, the Regional News does not represent the
support of the majority of the People of Caledonia, Haldimand or Ontario. On
the other hand 10,000 signatures on the petition that supports what Ken and
Toby are doing does represent the will of the people of Caledonia, Haldimand
and Ontario.
Once again, you are regarding your own personal opinions as being the
arbitrary truth, whereas the real truth is that you are not the arbitrary,
chosen or elected spokesperson for our communities. A recent example of
arbitrary spokespersons are those self-appointed native militant protest
leaders who have surfaced within the factional Six Nations community. If you
want to see yourself as being a valid and respected spokesperson for our
Ontario communities, I would suggest that you should gather the support of
10,000 signatures of your own before self-appointing yourself to being
counter productive to the wishes of our communities.
Dennis James.
Editor note: The Regional News has nothing to do with the argument, except as a “vehicle” for Mchale’s column.
For Immediate Release
ReplyDeleteFebruary 18, 2009
Inquiry to seek “the truth” about Caledonia
MPP introduces Private Members Bill call for inquiry
Queens Park – Three years of unanswered questions, and government inaction on area land disputes have led to MPP Toby Barrett’s call for a full public inquiry into all aspects of the ongoing debacle.
Haldimand Norfolk MPP Barrett introduced today proposed legislation, titled “Truth about Caledonia Act, 2009” into the Ontario Legislature.
“This proposed legislation builds on Ken Hewitt’s petition to establish an inquiry into law enforcement, as well as an Opposition call for an inquiry into Caledonia two and a half years ago – ” stated Barrett. “It’s time we get all sides off this three-year hamster wheel.”
Following introduction today, Barrett’s, “Truth about Caledonia Act, 2009” is set to be debated March 12th.
Barrett’s Private Members Bill calls for an inquiry:
to inquire into and report on allegations of political influence in the administration of justice by the courts and in the enforcement of the law by the police…
to determine the facts with respect to the ownership of land
to make recommendations directed to the prevention of attempts of intimidation and related behaviour
Caledonia residents Ken Hewitt and Judy Laszlo – webmaster of Have your say Caledonia – joined Toby in a press conference before the bill was introduced to speak in support of Barrett’s initiative as well as discuss their own work to seek answers.
“The fundamental right of policing and security of land ownership – should be the right of each and every individual in Ontario,” stated Judy Laszlo. “Premier McGuinty and this government have a duty to address the lack of this in Haldimand.”
“The leadership of the OPP, including Commissioner Fantino has failed the people of Caledonia, they have failed the people of Ontario,” stated Ken Hewitt. “They must be held accountable; the time for race based policing must come to an end.”
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For more information, please contact MPP Toby Barrett at (519) 428-0446 or (905)-765-8413, 1-800-903-8629
Hey Donna - did you watch CHCH news tonight?
ReplyDeleteHewitt, McHale and Merlyn were united while Toby was left to himself.
Perhaps Ken Hewitt needs to now make a public statement because of McHale's insistence on trying to link himself to Hewitt.
ReplyDeleteThis is getting to be a sad state of affairs with McHale. It's obviously a last ditch effort to hook himself onto somebody's coat tails.
Buy a clue Gary. You're not welcome anymore. You've even chased the main stream media away as they don't even mention you anymore. (Except when you force your way into the picture like a pitiful groupie)
Hey Donna looks like you got kicked off of Have Your Say Caledonia! You blog has been deleted!
ReplyDeleteDon't get too excited Gary.
ReplyDeleteDonna, "Have Your Say Caledonia" has always had a general policy of not linking to other blogs or message boards. Don't take that as an insult.
Nice try Gary.
Your efforts to divide and conquer are coming home to roost. All you're doing is pushing even your past supporters away from you as we can all see the past while.
But it's good that everyone sees your true colors so they know to stay away from you.
"Mr. Hewitt at Queen's Park stated that only MP Diane Finley had signed the petition - Toby was sitting two chairs away but Hewitt didn't say Toby signed the petition. He then stated he was upset by the number of MPs and MPPs who would not support the Petition. He then stated that if Fantino could write a letter to the court to support Clyde Powless then why could not MPs and MPPs not come out and support the Petition."
ReplyDeleteToby look dumbfounded.
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It comes from the fact that I listened to Hewitt say the words.
"My understanding is the only people that are allowed into the closed circuit tv. press room, are invited guests of an MPP"
ReplyDeleteI forget to say that I was an invited guests of an MPP when I posted that I heard Hewitt say the words.
hmmmmm.. Who else was an invited guest today other than Judy and Ken? Seems like it could have been maybe Gary, Mark, Merlyn or John. So which one doesn't have the courage to sign their name on Donna's blog?
ReplyDeleteThere was about 20 people in the room. I don't believe Mark or John was there. I did see them outside. Of the people I know there was Dave Brown, McHale, Merlyn, McHale's wife and Judy's boyfriend.
ReplyDeleteWhy don't you sign your name first or don't you have any courage?
Just watched CHCH at 11 pm. Not a word or even a video clip about CANACE or McHale.
ReplyDeleteJust Toby Barrett, Ken Hewitt and McGuinty.
I've also scoured all the main stream media and they also ignored McHale and CANACE.
Again, they all reported exclusively on Hewitt, Barrett and McGuinty.
The world is all aligned properly again.
At least Hewitt and Barrett actually live in Haldimand and so does Dennis James and Donna Pitcher.
So long Gary.
The free ride is finally over. You'll never recover whatever little credibility you had, from publicly attacking Toby Barrett in the manner you did the past few days.
Question: Why is Toby Barrett lying to the public that he has signed the petition when he has not?
ReplyDeleteToby's email - Feb 12 - "At time of writing, the petition has garnered over 5,000 signatures – one of them being my own."
Toby has not signed Hewitt's Petition and Hewitt stated very clearly that MP Diane Finley is the only MP or MPP to sign the petition.
Question - Why does Barrett not support Hewitt's petition?
That's simple Gary.
ReplyDeleteToby placed a condition on his signature and stated it publicly.
He stated that he supports the idea of a general inquiry but did NOT support the specific demand that Fantino be suspended or fired.
Your conspiracy theory attempts are well known Gary.
Stop trying to drive wedges amongst Haldimand residents. People see right through this now. And stop accusing people of lying. Simply put, nobody owes any explanation to you !!
I hope Mr. Hewitt comes out publicly to put you in your place just as Mr. James and Ms. Pitcher did. (I'm sorry Donna. I don't know if you are married or not thus the "Ms." ---and you need not answer either)
"Toby placed a condition on his signature and stated it publicly."
ReplyDeleteSo he lied when he told people he signed the petition. Individual people cannot alter the petition then sign it and claim to support the petition. The petition is meant to be a legal document to be used at Queen's Park.
Toby's name cannot be submitted with the petition when it goes to Queen's Park because Toby wants to removed the parts he doesn't like. By law each person's signature must appear on the page that has the wording of the petition - individuals cannot alter the wording. This is done to prove each person has approved of the wording of the petition. You cannot have the wording of the petition on one page and signatures on another.
Mr. Barrett knows this and therefore knows full well that his name will not appear on the petition when it is submitted at Queen's Park.
This is why Hewitt stated he was frustrated with MPs and MPPs. One reporter asked Hewitt if he know of any other MPs or MPPs (other than Diane Finley) who were planning to sign the petition - Hewitt said no. Toby never spoke up that he was going to sign Hewitt's petition nor did Toby claim that he already signed it.
By Law Toby did not sign Hewitt's petition. He did sign a petition that as far as I know only has Toby's name on it - a petition of one person.
"Editor note: The Regional News has nothing to do with the argument, except as a “vehicle” for Mchale’s column"
ReplyDeleteIs Gary McHale a paid reporter at the Regional? Or have they just given him free space. If it is the later people who pay for their advertising at the Regional should be asking for a refund!
Thanks everyone again for your comments.
ReplyDeleteThanks everyone for being respectful, this is very important to me. I only once had to shut down the comments on a blog because someone started posting "garbage", I really don't like to delete or shut down the comments so be respectful, do not personally attack someone by calling them names.
Call me what you want....liar....loser etc, but "do not" call anyone else a name on my blog!
I have a serious problem with the poster that called Toby a liar, and I would love to delete that comment. But for now I will let it go and I will defend Toby. Toby did sign the petition for item #2. It is simple, if in fact it makes his signature "null and void" so be it, currently that would make approx. 5,000 signatures -1!
So please no name calling or I will shut down the comments. Debate, don't crucify!
A note to the latest poster: It really doesn't matter whether McHale is paid by the Regional News or given free space. What matters is that he has an article or a column if you will in the paper every week. If they didn't agree with and support his views this would not be the case. How do I know? I know because in the past when I have written letters to the editor that did not agree with the stand taken by the Regional News my letters were not printed while at the same time the same letters were printed by other local newspapers. That's proof enough for me.
ReplyDeleteThanks Donna for confirming that Toby signed his own petition while everyone else signed Hewitt's petition. In the past Donna has rightly point out point that certain things must be done legally - ie. regarding actions of Haldimand Council and incamera meetings etc.
ReplyDeleteTherefore, there is only one question. Did Toby sign Hewitt's legal document or not? The answer is No.
Diane Finley also signed the petition for #2. I cannot believe that someone is going to be that petty Donna. Twisting your words! The above poster must be sitting on your blog waiting to post!
ReplyDeletePerhaps McHale can give us an update as to whether he is still living rent-free in Binbrook, a part of Hamilton.
ReplyDeleteIt always amazes me how he can survive without a job or an income.
If he has a car, how on earth can he afford the insurance?
Freedom of speech is a very important aspect of life in a democratic society. Everyone has a right to express their own opinion and that is as it should be. The only downside to this is that some people will abuse this freedom to sway peoples' opinions, not for the betterment of the masses but rather for self gain. Each and every one of us with everything we read or are otherwise informed of through the various forms of information media have to attempt to decipher and select right from wrong, good from bad, beneficial from detrimental. This can only be done by carefully examining all sides of a discussion. We should all be grateful for sights like this that publish all sides and give us the tools by which to make objective decisions. Although I realize that Donna has as we all do her own opinions of right and wrong I think we should all be grateful to her for all of the work she does to try and make the real truth available to the public. I for one am very grateful.
ReplyDeleteJust one more point I would like to make. A poster named Elizabeth Hutchison stated that in her opinion if someone isn't mature enough to use their name their opinion shouldn't be printed. Well Ms. Hutchison, in the 1960s and early 1970s I openly took a stand against America's involvement in the Vietnam War and for my troubles I got beaten up, fire hosed, tear gassed and thrown in jail on several occassions. I am too old now to be subjected to such abuse, I'm afraid my body just couldn't take it now. That doesn't mean that I don't have a right to my opinion. If and when a time comes that I feel strongly enough about a cause to give my life for it you will have no problem identifying me. Thanks again Donna.
I believe Mr. McHale pays rent like everyone else. He is incorporated and those who want his services pay him money. What he does with that money is up to him. Now Mr. Whittle how do you pay your bills as if that is important for anyone to ask?
ReplyDeleteI believe this site as already had the debate about McHale's income and no one was able to say why other groups, like MADD, can accept donation but McHale cannot. A job is a job.
Maybe Mr. Whittle can post his email to MADD that demands they get a job and stop living off other people.
"Barrett says he's had protesters dogging him the past few days at his offices who are opposed to the legislation, but apart from that there is tremendous support for this."
ReplyDeletehttp://cd989.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=15436
Hello Donna,
ReplyDeleteYou seem to be making a big deal out of the fact that only '8' people, including McHale, were at Doug Fleming's protest at Toby's office.
I seem to remember you doing a protest all by yourself on a Dunnville bridge, and the only person with you throughout the day was a CANACE founder who drove all the way from London to support you - me. I didn't make fun of you, and I didn't try to undermine your efforts on my website. I simply did my best to support you.
How soon we forget, Donna.
Mark Vandermaas
CANACE
To Mark Vandermaas, Voice of Canada.
ReplyDeleteWhat was the date of Donna's efforts on the bridge in Dunnville?
When was CANACE founded?
Did Donna ask you to join her on that bridge? Or did you take it upon yourself to come out all the way from London?
If I recall correctly, Donna took a lot of flak from a lot of people in Haldimand directly, and indirectly without her knowledge because of your involvement and association with you know who.
If there is one significant thing that I respect about Donna Pitcher it is that she is her own person and quite good at keeping things in context.
Try it some time.
You mean flak from people like yourself who can't recall any of the details but are able to post an opinion.
ReplyDeleteYou can't remember the date of Donna's efforts, or when CANACE was founded or whether Donna invited Mark but you have an opinion.
If there is one significant thing that I respect about Donna Pitcher it is that she knows her facts before posting an opinion so maybe you should try the same.
Post from Anonymous:
ReplyDelete"You mean flak from people like yourself who can't recall any of the details but are able to post an opinion.
You can't remember the date of Donna's efforts, or when CANACE was founded or whether Donna invited Mark but you have an opinion.
If there is one significant thing that I respect about Donna Pitcher it is that she knows her facts before posting an opinion so maybe you should try the same."
Nice assumption. I remember. Just curious as to why CANACE is being triumphed when it didn't even exist at the time.
Last time I checked, Mark Vandermaas was an Advisor to CANACE and nothing more.
Check their site. Clear as a bell.
Next.
February 19, 2009
ReplyDeleteApology to Regional News:
Recently I sent out an email that stated the Regional News had refused to print a Press Release from Toby Barrett.
It was an unfortunate choice of words that gave the impression that the Regional News had taken a side against Mr. Barrett and/or his proposed inquiry. This did not reflect the truth in regards to the Regional News. I am well aware that many media receive hundreds of news items per day and they are unable to print all of them.
I do not know the political views of the Regional News, if any, and I understand that items printed by the paper that are written by me are my stated views, and not theirs.
I would like to offer my most sincere apology to the Regional News and to its owner/publisher Chris Pickup, for any harm, embarassment and/or inconvenience caused by my inappropriate choice of words.
Gary McHale
info@Caledoniawakeupcall.com
Response to Toby's words in the Simcoe Reformer - http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/updates/090217simcoe.html
ReplyDeleteSorry Toby, I'm not buying it
You claim to have consulted with nearly 500 individuals but I don't recall any Town Hall meetings, door to door campaigning or fliers to inform the public. What I do recall is three emails sent out on the topic and they didn't ask for people to suggest any changes. At no time did you ask these 500 individuals for input.
Your first email on the topic was Feb. 6, 2009 which did not include the wording for your inquiry nor asked for any input into the wording. On Feb. 10 you again sent out an email and this time stated that you had signed Hewitt's petition.
I find this disturbing since I know you have refused to sign Hewitt's petition and Hewitt stated at Queen's Park that MP Diane Finley was the only MP or MPP to sign the petition. Hewitt further spoke about his frustration with MPs and MPPs because they would not support his petition.
It should therefore not surprise the public that since you have refused to sign Hewitt's petition that your call for an inquiry doesn't resemble the petition that over 7000 people have signed.
You further stated that we didn't ask for changes until after the final text of the bill had been determined and sent off to the printer.
Sorry, I am not buying it because your office was contacted within one hour of your Feb. 10 email. This means you had 8 days to contact us and to make changes. Furthermore, have you not heard of Staples - they can photocopy your 3 page write-up, assemble and staple it all within one hour.
What you did Mr. Barrett is you spoke with 3-4 people in Caledonia who you knew would be so overjoyed that anything was being done that they would not question you and then you avoided speaking to anyone who may pressure the PC Party to support Hewitt's petition.
The final proof that your call for an Inquiry had nothing to do with the 7000 people who signed the petition is the fact that you informed the media at Queen's Park that Hewitt would be back for another call for an inquiry and he would bring his petition.
Question Mr. Barrett: If your call for an Inquiry was meant to be an answer to the 7000 people who signed the petition then why are you already admitting another inquiry is needed?
Gary McHale
President of CANACE
Canadian Advocates for Charter Equality
Then please post the dates if you know.
ReplyDeleteThe last time I check Mark was the Vice President of the corporation called CANACE but hey, you are the one claiming to have all your facts straight.
Wow McHale apology... bigger man then I thought.
ReplyDeletePost by Anonymous:
ReplyDelete"Then please post the dates if you know.
The last time I check Mark was the Vice President of the corporation called CANACE but hey, you are the one claiming to have all your facts straight."
Go check CANACE's site for yourself. Peruse this blog for the bridge date. It's here.
Gary. Just a reminder....
ReplyDeleteKudos to you and the Canace group for running and aquiring some votes in the recent federal elections, however, you must learn to understand that you clearly did not win any election that bestowed you the honor to speak for the people of our communitys within Haldimand County or Norfolk County.
You have now appologized to the Regional News which is honorable. How about if you would also appologize to the Chronicle and the residents of our communitys.
I can say that I agree with much of your platform and I appreciate your efforts, but enough is enough. You need to learn to play well with others rather than trying to make it all revolve around Gary.
The provincial election is not too far into the future. Will you be running against Toby for MPP ?
Signed : ME AGAIN!
ps, because my name is on this blog too many times already.
Thanks again for all your comments, and thanks for the post of the apology from Gary McHale, I just read it.
ReplyDeleteI would like to respond with some answers to the following;
"Hello Donna,
You seem to be making a big deal out of the fact that only '8' people, including McHale, were at Doug Fleming's protest at Toby's office.
I seem to remember you doing a protest all by yourself on a Dunnville bridge, and the only person with you throughout the day was a CANACE founder who drove all the way from London to support you - me. I didn't make fun of you, and I didn't try to undermine your efforts on my website. I simply did my best to support you.
How soon we forget, Donna."
Mark Vandermaas
CANACE
Mark I will respond to your post by re posting the following from above;
One poster said it all;
“Freedom of speech is a very important aspect of life in a democratic society. Everyone has a right to express their own opinion and that is as it should be. The only downside to this is that some people will "abuse this freedom" to sway peoples' opinions, not for the betterment of the masses but rather for self gain. Each and every one of us with everything we read or are otherwise informed of through the various forms of information media have to attempt to decipher and select right from wrong, good from bad, beneficial from detrimental. This can only be done by carefully examining all sides of a discussion.” Thanks!
I recall perfectly what happened on the Dunnville bridge in June of 2007. The following will jog your memory with excerpts from both your blog and mine;
From my blog Mark;
A few lessons can be learned through our actions; One lesson is that not everyone will interpret what you are doing the same as you, and that needs to be respected! Another lesson that can be learned is that even the smallest action can have a "huge impact". The most important lesson that can be learned is that "we have no control" over how things will turn out!
"Day Three";
I arrived at the bridge at 6:15am with my sign in hand and sat between the 2 Canadian Flags.
At 8:00am I was joined by Mark Vandermaas from Voice of Canada. For those of you who are aware of Caledonia Wakeup Call, "Mark was asked by Gary McHale to cover the events of the day". Mark has posted his events of the day on, http://voiceofcanada.wordpress.com/.
Again the day was full of kind gestures; one woman dropped off a stool for me to sit on. One gentleman stopped to drop off a magic marker, as he said that the print on my sign was not dark enough. One person came with a case of water; others dropped off smarties, coffee, donuts, chocolate bars, ice cream, fruit, chocolate eclairs, ice tea mix, water etc…. People again honked, waved, and sent gestures of support.
"I wasn’t alone on the bridge today". People joined me from the community; there were at least "5" of us on the bridge at any given time throughout the day.
We were also joined by, Karen Best from the Chronicle, Bill Jackson from the Regional News, Paul Legal (hope I spelled that correctly) from the Spectator, and Al Sweeney from CHTV.
The parking lot beside the bridge was also filling up with people, looking on.. The O.P.P. were also very visible today, as they drove over the bridge many times throughout the day and once again waved as they drove by.
http://haldimandsunheardvoice.blogspot.com/2007/07/haldimand-my-bridge-sit-in.html
This is from your site Mark;
"Gary McHale asked me to join Haldimand resident Donna Pitcher on the bridge" in Dunnville to cover her one-woman protest/plea that the OPP keep the bridge open should native protesters decide to block it as part of their National Day of Action. "My job" was to gather photo/video evidence of any native actions, and to gather evidence to be used……..
During the day, various people came to join us on the bridge for a few minutes, some for hours at a time. Some came to talk, some to hold Donna’s sign so she could take a bathroom break. Some knew Donna, but most were new ‘friends’ coming to lend support or simply to ask questions.
http://voiceofcanada.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/day-of-action-dunnville-rocks-opp-two-tier-justice-lives/
This is to clarify the information that someone was asking about CANACE, I just took this from the website;
(Canadian Advocates for Charter Equality)
P.O. Box 2083,
Caledonia, Ontario
N3W 2G6
info@CANACE.ca
CANACE is the ‘doing business as‘ (DBA) name for federal corporation 7008309 Canada Inc.
Officers of the Corporation
President: Gary McHale
Executive Director/Media Relations
Treasurer: Merlyn Kinrade
Caledonia Liaison
Secretary: Jeffrey Parkinson
Director of Multimedia Production
Gary McHale, President
Executive Director/Media Relations
Merlyn Kinrade, Treasurer
Caledonia Liaison
Jeff Parkinson, Secretary
Director of Multimedia Production
Mark Vandermaas, Advisor
(Mr. Vandermaas is not an officer or employee of the corporation)
Mary-Lou LaPratte, Ipperwash Liaison
(Ms. LaPratte is not an officer or employee of the corporation.)
I hope the above jogs your memory Mark.
How very nice that something that went so smoothly months ago can be changed into an insult fest for most of the posts here.
ReplyDeleteInformation from all sourses is important in these trying times. While all of you divide, conquer, insult and alienate each other, McGuinty et al are laughing all the way to their golden pensions . Kudos to all of you for a job shabbily done on behalf of your fellow man.
I have on many occasions agreed to disagree on several issues. However, I have never before felt the need to comment on the abrasive, mean tactics of some of you. I hope most of you are never covering my back in a bad situation.
The Regional News edits people's opinions if it doesn't go along with their -theme- they've developed for their so-called newspaper or in any way gives credit to any individual that The Regional News has determined they have a -hate-on- for.
ReplyDeleteIt's shameful.
The Town of Caledonia should do an about face and surprise Julian Fantino with a large Thank You card for doing his part in keeping McHale out of Caledonia.
ReplyDeleteIf McHale can interrupt and disturb so many citizen's and businesse's lives while being barred from entering the place, just think of the havoc and mayhe he'd cause if he was free to roam. Nobody would be safe from his unpredictable episodes and moods.
You just know that McHale is reaching new lows when he has to publicly apologise to the Regional News while at the same time, publicly smearing MPP Toby Barrett and calling him a liar.
I hope the Conservative Party lawyers get after McHale like hungry dogs on a bone.
"How very nice that something that went so smoothly months ago can be changed into an insult fest for most of the posts here"
ReplyDeleteThe past 3 years has never been smooth. Gary McHale has caused many problems, has lied many times to both the public and the press. At least we can see that proof here as we all read Gary McHale's apology to the Regional Newspaper. When Gary McHale sent out that email about the Regional he made everyone believe that the newspaper was taking sides when in fact he manipulated the facts to go his way. I hope that the Regional has learned a lesson here and will only give Gary his fame as a "letter to the editor" just like everyone else, his opinion only!
Many people write letters to the editor and they do not get printed. This is not because they agree or disagree with what someone has written it is a matter of space. I'll bet that if each newspaper in Haldimand County printed every single letter, there would be no news.
ReplyDeleteIt is very unfortunate for the Regional Newspaper that Mchale dragged them in on his game. Even with an apology the damage has already been done.
Donna you said;
ReplyDeleteI did forget to mention that I am not interested in Gary McHales new "wording" for Toby Barretts Private Members Bill so I never went into the file to read it.
This proves Donna that you are very narrow minded. Why wouldn't you read Garys words and then make a judgement? Maybe if you actually read it and paid attention you would have a different opinion.
What is any of this Gary McHale's business anyways. Does he own property in Haldimand? Does he own a business in Haldimand?
ReplyDeleteWhy is he pretending to be the voice of Haldimand?
I don't get it why any newspaper would pass over so much press space for him and his few friends and leave very little room for others to have a say.
It looks very strange for a local newspaper to allow only a few select individuals to dominate the discussion so thoroughly.
I forgot to say also that this Merlyn Kinrade who writes so often is very hostile to any other previous letter writers who may manage to get something printed. Why does the Regional News seem to promote such disdain and hatred and print his abusive ramblings ? Is there no editor there who keeps a certain level of form and etiquette and decorum.
ReplyDeleteWell hold on to your hats folks, this ride ain't over yet. I think the biggest problem with this whole scenario in Caledonia is that no-one seems to have gotten to or been able to get to what the real source of the problem is. All of that seems to have been overlooked in an increasingly accelerated and widespread manner. Instead of people trying to resolve the problem by starting at the beginning and going through the facts step by step all focus has been lost on a (if you'll excuse my language) pissing match between the various factions who supposedly set out to find a solution to the problem. Of course its altogether possible that there is purpose behind this. If you look back through history during times of war or civil unrest you will often see reference to the phrase "divide and conquer". Sometimes the powers that be will even plant troublemakers to stir things up and halt progress. I'm not saying that this is what's happened in Caledonia but I have to wonder. I do know however that as long as some people are motivated by their own selfish needs very little can be done to help the masses reach their goals. If any solution is ever to be found to bring peace, happiness and prosperity to the people of Six Nations, Caledonia and Haldimand County it will only be accomplished by people working together for the common good. It's time to stop the pissing match and get on track to solve the issue. Those of you who have your own agenda, do your neighbours a favour and step back, those of you who have an honest desire to find solutions and get on with life as it should be, get together and work toward your common goal. Only then will peace return to our communities.
ReplyDeleteI have a question that came to mind when I read the term "land ownership" connected to Mr. Barrett's inquiry and that is what is the meaning of the term. I would like someone to define "land ownership" as to the rights of people who own land. Thanks, I'll be waiting.
ReplyDelete"define 'land ownership' as to the rights of people who own land."
ReplyDeleteAs Canadians we have many Rights - some are written in the Charter but others are not. For example, you have the right to use reasonable force to remove trespassers. It is written into the Criminal Code.
The law is absolutely clear that people do own their land as recorded in the Land Title Deed system. The Supreme Court of Canada has ruled the Government cannot return private land to Natives to settle Land Claims. Therefore, the Supreme Court accepts people's right to their property and will not rule against ownership of property.
The common law history is also absolutely clear regarding the ownership of private property.
"I hope the Conservative Party lawyers get after McHale like hungry dogs on a bone."
ReplyDeleteWhat laws do you think the Conservative Party can go after McHale on? I guess you want the Conservative Party to act like Fantino and McGuinty. That will go over really well in Haldimand.
Barrett, McGuinty and Fantino unite
Great headline
let's try these for starters.
ReplyDeleteIntimidation, Slander, Defamation of Character,
Harassment
It's high time the weight of the law starts falling on McHale.
What statement is "Intimidation, Slander, Defamation of Character, Harassment"
ReplyDeleteIf you are correct then your post itself is "Intimidation, Slander, Defamation of Character, Harassment"
Based on your view everyone can speak but McHale.
In reality, McHale seeks to make sure nobody can speak but him. The record proves it.
ReplyDeleteI think he's angry now because Toby and hewitt have in effect de-frocked Gary and put him into the background where he belongs.
Who would be silly enough to trust McHale anymore? His flock has run away fast and he's down to 8 people. Two of which are himself and his wife.
He has nobody to blame but himself though.
"It's high time the weight of the law starts falling on McHale."
ReplyDeleteThis is a joke, correct. McHale is facing a $7 million lawsuit by the OPP and been arrested twice. What exactly do you think the PC Party can do to him?
The more people attack him the stronger he appears in the public. Why do you think so many people voted for him. He is a fighter which is what people want.
The joke is on McHale. only 6 people want McHale to fight and only for the reason that McHale is stupid enough to do their dirty work so they aren't legally responsible.
ReplyDeleteMcHale has some nerve comparing himself to Dr.Martin Luther King Jr. because MLK gained support and respect as he went along. McHale on the other hand accomplishes nothing but self-degradation, insulting real victims in the world by implying he, himself, is a victim, embarrassment, ridicule and worst of all, he attacks, offends and insults the very people he purports to be standing up for. Yet he will, on occasion, hold those people he attacks up on a temporary pedestal if he senses value to himself as a result of their efforts of the day.
How this is a benefit to anyone in Haldimand escapes me.
"Who would be silly enough to trust McHale anymore? His flock has run away fast and he's down to 8 people. Two of which are himself and his wife."
ReplyDeleteYou people believe your own B.S. This has been said for two years and McHale still got 5000 votes. How many people do you think are going to take a day off work to drive to Toby's office?
Toby only had 4 people at Queen's Park so does that mean no one else supports Toby?
Politicians know what many people on this board do not know. Behind every person who took the time to do something then there are a hundred more who share the same view.
"You people believe your own B.S. This has been said for two years and McHale still got 5000 votes. How many people do you think are going to take a day off work to drive to Toby's office?"
ReplyDeleteClarification 1: Gary McHale lost the election handily because the majority of people voted for someone else. That, is NOT "B.S."
Clarification 2: Gary McHale didn't have to take a day off work because he doesn't have a job.
"McHale is facing a $7 million lawsuit by the OPP"
ReplyDeleteWrong again !
McHale is being sued by 22 indivduals who share a common career.
The Ontario Provincial Police are not listed os participants in that lawsuit if I recall correctly.
See how BS starts?
Clarification 1: Gary McHale won Caledonia and beat out both the Conservative and Liberal Party.
ReplyDeleteClarification 2: People pay McHale to do a job so you are correct he didn't take a day off work since that is his job.
"People pay McHale to do a job so you are correct he didn't take a day off work since that is his job."
ReplyDeleteDoes Revenue Canada know about this?
Thanks again everyone for your comments.
ReplyDeleteI want to remind everyone that my blog is only one venue for people to voice their opinions and concerns. I also want to remind everyone that my blog does not represent the majority of the people, what my blog does represent is my opinions, and when I post my blog I open it up for you to voice your opinions. We all have differences of opinion, and debate is a very good thing, sometimes it even changes a persons outlook or stand on an issue. So as I said in my blog, Gary McHale and Canace have their personal opinions as well.
But I will state a few "facts" here and maybe this will keep us on track of what my blog was all about.
Ken Hewitt has a petition that I believe has around 6,000 signatures on it. I am not aware of any other petition out there at this time that is related in nature to Ken's. So the fact is that Ken's petition speaks volumes!
Toby Barrett has waited his turn to submit a Private Members Bill. (for those of you that are not aware, Toby has waited a year and a half for his turn) Toby Barrett has been fighting for answers to many issues in Haldimand/Norfolk County on our behalf for many years. Toby Barrett was elected by the "majority" of the people in Haldimand/Norfolk, so the fact is Toby speaks on our behalf.
As far as the rest of us, we too have our opinions and like to have our voice heard, but in the bigger picture when it comes to getting the job down the only power we have is with the elected officials (that we elect) in all three levels of government. Our job is to put pressure on our elected officials to do the right thing!
It is time for our focus to be on the issues that face all of us, not the individuals that seem to think they have the power.
If you agree with Ken's petition, sign it!
If you agree with Toby's Private Members Bill, let him know.
All I know is if we do "nothing", "nothing" will get done!
Again thanks to all of your comments, you are what makes my blog work!
Clarification 1: Haldimand County is not Caledonia, Caledonia is in Haldimand County. McHale ran to represent Haldimand-Norfolk. He lost the election, no ifs ands or buts about it.
ReplyDeleteClarification 2: McHale has stated quite publicly in the media that he lives off of donations. He and/or a few have also made many requests in the media for people to give him
money on a regular monthly basis to cover his living expenses.
Do we really want to open that whole $5.00 can of worms again?
Any further comments on how McHale earns his living will be deleted! I am not interested and I already covered that in another blog. I had to shut that blog down because it got out of hand.
ReplyDeletePlease stay on topic.
Thanks
Donna
Well said Donna, and I commend you for your efforts, your honesty and your willingness to put yourself in the line of fire, and letting so many speak their minds! Thanks!
ReplyDelete"If you agree with Ken's petition, sign it!"
ReplyDeleteDonna, maybe you can phone Toby and get him to sign it if he agrees with it. Untill he does we must assume he doesn't agree with it.
Toby has signed the petition. He signed it at his levee in Caledonia and there were several witnesses there.
ReplyDeleteWe must keep in mind that ALL attempts to help towards resolving the issues that affect us here are good ones. We do not have to fully agree with everyone and or the paths by which they want to take, but we can all agree on one thing and that is we want to see things moving forward. We all want, regardless of who you are answers from our politicians, answers that lead to the truths. Any agenda that helps us get to this point is worth supporting.
Ken Hewitt said...
ReplyDelete"Toby has signed the petition. He signed it at his levee in Caledonia and there were several witnesses there.
We must keep in mind that ALL attempts to help towards resolving the issues that affect us here are good ones. We do not have to fully agree with everyone and or the paths by which they want to take, but we can all agree on one thing and that is we want to see things moving forward. We all want, regardless of who you are answers from our politicians, answers that lead to the truths. Any agenda that helps us get to this point is worth supporting."
THANK YOU MR. HEWITT!
Now maybe McHale and CANACE can call off the dogs with their latest round of badgering to start a campaign to pressure Mr. Barrett to sign something that he already has.
Simply unbelieveable.
Too much energy has been spent redirecting the effort to keep the government aware because of efforts to derail that effort.
Thank you for clarifying Ken.
That is that. Congratulations Donna on 88 replies. Thank you Ken for your clarification. Now will someone from Canace clarify.
ReplyDeleteI do beleive that this blog is done!
ReplyDeleteThanks again to everyone that commented.
We are on track, we always have been!
"Kudos" To you Ken for all of your hard work!
"Kudos" To you Judy for staying the course!
"Kudos" To you Toby for always being there for us!
And "Kudos" to everyone who commented on my blog!
Donna