Monday, February 2, 2009

Haldimand "Should We Roll out the Red Carpet for Business?"

For those of you that are familar with the Autodrome at the Dunnville Airport, it looks like the battle could be finally coming to an end!

I am in support of the Autodrome and have kept in touch with what has been going on the last five years. This "is not" a "race" track and should not have to follow the same rules as a "racetrack", of course this is my personal opinion.

For those that live in the vicinity that have complained about the noise of the Autodrome have never complained about the noise on the river (boats, jet skis etc) or the noise of the planes flying over head.

When the Autodrome first came to Dunnville, it was only the planes from the sky diving school, now there are many more planes flying low over head "all year" round with the Flight School. I did find it quite interesting that the lawyer for Dunnville Cares brought up the fact of safety in having a track so close to the Flight School?

This battle has cost the taxpayers a huge amount of money, as the county is fighting with everything it has to stop the Autodrome!

You would think that the County would try and help this "Business" not stop it!

It will be interesting to see the outcome, and I do hope that the county is not treating other businesses the same way.

Autodrome appeal will take 10 days
Ontario Municipal Board will hear details of five-year battle

Posted By KAREN BEST, CHRONICLE STAFF WRITER
Posted 3 days ago

An attempt to overturn a rejected zoning application for the Dunnville Autodrome will take up to 10 days.

Starting June 9, lawyer Brian Duxbury will launch his quest to ask the Ontario Municipal Board to accept the zoning change requested by Autodrome operator Lee Abrahamson.

On the other side of the room at the Jan. 27 preliminary hearing, lawyer Greg Hedley will offer arguments on behalf of Dunnville Community Association Respecting our Environment (CARES). He and lawyer Randolph Smith are co-counsels for the group.

Founded in 2005, the community group opposes use of the road course built at the Dunnville Airport in 2004. At least 20 witnesses will be called to offer evidence on behalf of Dunnville CARES, said chair Bill Strong, who sat beside Hedley at the preliminary hearing.
A comparable number of witnesses are anticipated from the autodrome. Both parties will call their own noise experts to the stand.

Lawyer Sara Premi, who is representing Haldimand County, attended the Jan. 27 OMB hearing with county senior planner Mike Evers.

The OMB is an arm's length quasi-judicial body that hears business and resident appeals of municipal council planning decisions.

Approved by OMB member R. S. J. Stefanko, hearings are set for June 9 to 12; June 16, 18 and 19; and June 22 and 23. All will be held in the Haldimand County Cayuga administration building. Most of the proceedings will take place in the lower level committee room.

For almost five years, the Dunnville Autodrome, which promoted itself as a job-making and tourist attraction facility, has been at the centre of controversy.

In 2004, concerns were raised when the 2.2 kilometre course opened. Previous to construction and after use began, county officials notified Abrahamson that the use of the course was not permitted under an existing Town of Dunnville bylaw.

On the other hand, Abrahamson, who has invested close to $1 million in the venture, secured several legal opinions saying the use did comply with the bylaw. In the fall of 2004, the county set aside its pursuit of an injunction after Abrahamson initiated a zoning application. Over the years, the application was amended.

He was seeking approvals for a media production facility, technology centre, trade school and outdoor proving ground for research and development.

Last June, county council determined noise study requirements were not met and the use did not comply with the bylaw. By August, their decision was appealed to the board.

At the Jan. 27 preliminary hearing, participants, who will address the board in June, were registered. Donald Blunt will speak on behalf of the Beckley Beach Cottagers Association which represents owners of 65 cottages on the east side of Port Maitland.

Representing Toronto Motorsports Park, Cindy Campbell told the board that a TMP spokesperson will also speak to the board. Later she said road course operation without a racing licence was the issue of concern. Presently she was working on licence renewal for the TMP tracks.

Autodrome manager Jon Kuiper said he will speak as a supporter on behalf of the autodrome as will Steve Strong and Marion Kuiper.

Duxbury questioned some issues raised by Dunnville CARES including incompatibility of autodrome use with existing uses and air plane safety. Hedley referenced an Ontario Planning Act section that addressed health and safety and a provincial planning policy on location of development to avoid land use conflicts.

Continuing, Hedley insisted the board examine the safety of having a track right beside a runway used by 100 Maylan Aviation pilots-in-training.

Stefanko accepted these issues for the hearing but questioned the property value impact issue.
In response, Hedley said Maitland Shores Marina and RV Resort is closest to the road course and has 250 park model trailer sites and 360 boat slips. Owner Roger O'Hara has invested over $2 million in underground services and has lost sales when potential buyers heard the track noise, he added. The issue was accepted.

After the preliminary hearing, Jon Kuiper said, "I'm glad to see we're making progress and have a date picked."

"Hopefully this matter will be straightened out in June," he added.

Article ID# 1411760

25 comments:

  1. Yes we should, but Haldimand Never Has!

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  2. Elizabeth HutchisonFebruary 3, 2009 at 4:54 AM

    Haldimand County Council helping business? What a novel idea. Council has a long and shameful history of doing just the reverse. For some reason, Council has the attitude that anyone trying to earn a living in this county is the enemy. Have some fun. Do some digging. Talk to Doug Plank of Doug Plank Accountants in Caledonia. He has long been very vocal about his disgust with council's attitude towards business in this county. Just last year, with all the hardships heaped upon small business in this town, Craig Grice thought it a swell idea for business owners, to spend money on signage that would conform to new regulations! A great idea in other circumstances, but here? Now? Foolishness. Business are having a hard time making payroll and he wanted them to discard their existing signage and replace it.Just a couple of examples off the top of my head....Grand River Vet wanted to put up an awning at their entrance. Decorative and functional. Can't do that said council. A few years ago, The Cornerstone wanted to expand into the space that was empty beside them. Can't do that said council. Donna, you're just the person to run with this. Like the Titanic, you've just scraped the tip of the iceberg.

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  3. Ms Hutchison is wrong. The signage issue was initiated before 2006. The study is just coming forward now and has nothing to do with Grice, other than him now being the Councillor. I hope Grice doesn't follow Ms Hutchison's and Ms Pitchers suggestion that because its' a consultants report that Council should pass this.

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  4. The normal process to establish a new business in any jurisdiction, not just Haldimand, is to 1) obtain the necessary zoning, 2) obtain necessary licensing and 3) commence operations. The Dunnville Autodrome bypassed the first 2 critical requirements despite being advised by Haldimand County that current land use did not allow for a racetrack.

    The Autodrome requested rezoning only after commencing operations. During the past 5 years the rezoning process has been delayed time and time again due mostly to the Autodrome's unwillingness to cooperate with the county. Three noise studies have been conducted and all 3 have serious problems and none have been peer reviewed as required.

    The County twice set aside their legal action for an injunction against the Autodrome with the expectation that the Autodrome would expedite their rezoning application so the issue could be decided by Council. This did not happen.

    After 4 years of unlicensed operation, Haldimand County brought the Autodrome rezoning application to Council for a decision even though the applicant had not submitted a peer reviewed noise study. Four years of delays is enough and the County was right to move forward.

    The County's planning department prepared a very detailed report which concluded that the Autodrome proposal was NOT compatible with other existing and legal land use in the area. Council decided to deny the rezoning application. The noise issue was only a part of that decision.

    To state that the Autodrome "is not a "race" track" illustrates your complete lack of knowledge about the Autodrome. I guess because you don't live nearby and don't have your peace and quiet ruined from March thru November it's OK with you. Perhaps you should change the name of your site to "Haldimand's Uninformed Voice".

    As for the airport and the flight school, they are both established and legal uses. The aerodrome has been there for over 50 years. The planes do not create the same type of noise as the cars racing on the Autodrome's track and most people do not find the planes to be annoying.

    The airport and the flight school can claim two things that the Autodrome cannot. 1) their use is legal and 2) they provide employment. Yes despite outrageous promises of jobs, jobs, jobs, the autodrome cannot claim to have brought even a single full time permanent job to Dunnville.

    Bringing business to Haldimand is good. But we cannot allow just any rogue operation to establish itself if it is incompatible with existing residential and commercial properties. The promises of jobs has been proven false after more than 4 years of unrestricted operation.

    The autodrome will damage tourism in the area. It is a lose-lose proposal for Haldimand.

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  5. "The normal process to establish a new business in any jurisdiction, not just Haldimand, is to 1) obtain the necessary zoning, 2) obtain necessary licensing and 3) commence operations. The Dunnville Autodrome bypassed the first 2 critical requirements despite being advised by Haldimand County that current land use did not allow for a racetrack".

    Mayan Aviation did none of the above! In fact most council members were not even aware that this business was coming to Haldimand. The massive amount of renovations that was done to that hanger and not one permit or inspection!

    "To state that the Autodrome "is not a "race" track" illustrates your complete lack of knowledge about the Autodrome. I guess because you don't live nearby and don't have your peace and quiet ruined from March thru November it's OK with you. Perhaps you should change the name of your site to "Haldimand's Uninformed Voice".

    What is your definition of a racetrack? Mine is that cars race around a track to see who wins? Tickets are sold for this type of venue etc...The Autodrome is a testing track not a racetrack! To say that Donna is uninformed is just your own personal opninion and it is obvious that you strongly disagree with her stand!

    The Autodrome does bring money and people to Haldimand, you just need to speak to the gas station on the corner and ask them how much gas etc. that they sell when the Autodrome is having an event. People are also shopping and eating in Dunnville due to the Autodrome.

    The county changes zoning all the time, they changed zoning to allow a Nuclear Plant to be built in Haldimand County without the residents of this county having any input!

    Let's leave this issue up to the OMB, and by the way what will you do next when the OMB gives the go ahead for the Autodrome to go ahead with business?

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  6. What will the cottagers do when Maitland shores fills their boat slips?.......350 boats....lots of noise, lots of pollution.....Planes....Trains....and automobiles...sounds like a movie....

    On the serious side. I have been at several open houses that Lee has had and am quite impressed with his opertaion. Filming is being done by companies such as BMV. I was there once when they were filming a $350,000.00 dollar car. This car was not "racing" around the track!

    Dunnville Cares is a hand full of people, some with strong influence with county officials. This has clouded the judgement of the planning department. The majority rules in a democracy and for those that don't think the Autodrome will sue the county for this have blinders on. Just add this to the long list of law suits!

    The OMB will no doubt vote in favour of the Autodrome. This airport is under "Federal" jurisdiction, therefore the county has no say. That is why Mayon Aviation did not to deal at all with the county. The same will come to light for the Autodrome.

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  7. This says it all Donna, the county even admits that noise control is difficult and is perceived differently by each individual. So my question would be how can these noise studies have failed when the county really has nothing in place?

    Noise bylaw coming to address concerns
    KAREN BEST
    CHRONICLE STAFF WRITER
    2008

    People making noise about noise from loud cars on tracks, barking dogs, booming stereos and irritating industrial sounds might get some relief.

    Haldimand County council decided to hire a consultant to write a new municipal noise bylaw that will replace old bylaws. The $40,000 cost for this exercise was part of the 2008 budget.

    In his report to council, Ed VanderWindt, who over sees building controls and bylaw enforcement, referred several times to the "increasing importance of noise issues".

    He said existing bylaws leave noise levels open to interpretation and don't recognize the impact of repetitive noise even if it is quieter than the threshold.

    VanderWindt also said county staff are regarding noise as a stressor in the community. This is a concern expressed by some residents who live near Toronto Motorsports Park and the Dunnville Autodrome.

    Noise issues are difficult to resolve and can take a year to get through the courts so it is important to create an effective bylaw, he noted.

    Presently three existing noise bylaws from the former Town of Dunnville, former Town of Haldimand and former City of Nanticoke are in place. Delaying creation of a county wide bylaw may make it more difficult to suppress the offending noise in the future, VanderWindt stated.

    Because noise is perceived differently by individuals, setting standards and conditions can be difficult and a new bylaw will reflect this complexity, he o be fair about existing noise, the bylaw can incorporate a mechanism to protect the business and the neighbours and include a possible appeal or mediation process, VanderWindt added.

    In terms of reference for the selected consultant, the county lists 19 noises including engine noise, fireworks, train cars, pressurized sounds, yelling, vibration and garbage pick up.

    A number of public meetings will be held to receive input on a proposed bylaw, VanderWindt told council

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  8. I realize all that the writer mentioned.

    However, it was Craig Grice that wrote a letter to the editor of the Regional Weekly last year, stating what a great idea it was.

    At no time did I sanction this with or without a report. Which brings me to another issue.

    Authorizing a report on such foolishness is a waste of money. Three years to figure out signage. Unacceptable.

    It could have been spent on clearing the roads. Some people have a bit of a problem with reading and comprehension. (you may print this.)

    Beth

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  9. "This airport is under "Federal" jurisdiction, therefore the county has no say."

    Not exactly. The Feds concerns are restricted to the aeronautical operations only as they pertain to the aerodrome. The County has every right to zone this property.

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  10. Thanks for your comments everyone.

    In a time when Haldimand County is hurting for business you would think that both sides of the issue could work out their problems. And there is fault on "both sides" here.

    One set of Lawyers say that the CARES group is right and the other set of Lawyers say that the Autodrome is right.

    This issue for the last 4 or so years has torn apart a community and family members and that is a shame. The county is also a huge part of the blame for this!

    I do not know Lee's everyday operations but I know that we live in an area where there are many who only live here in the summer time and want their peace and quiet.

    But that brings me to the fact that it is far from peaceful in Haldimand around the Lake and River in the summer. As we live on the lake there is a lot of noise and traffic in the summer. Cottagers, parties, boats, jet skis, ATV's, planes etc......Where do we draw the line? For those that live in the Port Maitland area there too is a lot of noise and traffic in the summer from boats, jet skis, parties, campers, ATV's, cottagers, planes etc.

    This should have gone before the OMB a long ago.

    As far as the comment in regards to a consultants report, I have never stated at anytime that just because there was a consultant's report on any issue in Haldimand County that council should always vote in favour of the report!

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  11. Here is some more background information on the Autodrome issue. I have all of the articles that have been printed in the newspapers Donna. If you don't mind I will post a few.

    Wednesday, June 18, 2008
    County says no to autodrome rezoning


    County says no to autodrome rezoning
    by Bill Jackson
    Regional News This Week,
    June 18, 2008

    Residential complaints, insufficient noise studies and years of non-compliance with county zoning bylaws have resulted in Haldimand's rejection of an application to rezone lands at the Dunnville Airport that if approved, would have permitted automotive-type commercial and industrial uses.

    The municipality and local taxpayers contend that Lee Abrahamson and Dunnville Autodrome proponents have operated the facility in contravention of zoning bylaws since 2004, negatively impacting lifestyles and the local economy with loud noise.

    The county had sought an injunction against the operation in 2004 but agreed to drop court proceedings last year in favour of the rezoning process.

    Counsel for the Autodrome said that current zoning under the former Town of Dunnville permits car shows and short-term events, in addition to agricultural and industrial uses. At a council in committee meeting on Monday Richard Jones, on behalf of the Autodrome, said the definition of what's permitted under current zoning is a "live issue" in litigation.
    According to its website, "the Autodrome is primarily a research and development facility used by vehicle manufacturers and race teams from around North America... Other component manufacturers use the facility extensively for research and development by testing their components in real life conditions." The Autodrome also incorporates driver training schools.

    Jones said that the OPP and RCMP plan to use the facility for training and that Multimatic - a privately held Canadian corporation supplying components, systems and services to the global automotive industry - also has an agreement in place with the Autodrome.

    He admitted that car clubs - a noise concern commonly cited by residents - do not benefit the county on a large scale. He said the steady, week-to-week renting of the facility for training and development does.

    The "racing" of vehicles was not cited in the rezoning application as a proposed use.

    The facility has been used to shoot action sequences of new vehicles '- and to introduce the media to new car models, Jones told council. And all cars are now required to run with a muffler.

    However residents who spoke at Monday's meeting cited the disruptions they've experienced for the past five years.

    "We all know all too well the effects of the noise from the Autodrome," said Bill Strong in front of a packed council chamber.

    Strong leads the community group called Dunnville CARES which formed due to the concerns of property owners. He played videos of numerous formula and street legal vehicles careening down the 2.2 km, 13-turn track, screeching and squealing as they try to maintain control and balance during "drifting events."

    The promotion of the Autodrome as a "proving ground" is broad, one resident pointed out.

    Councillor Buck Sloat questioned if there was a difference in the noise created by wheel to wheel racing, compared to vehicles running against time.

    Greg Hedley said noise going "around and around and around" is far different than noise on normal roadways.

    "It's just a disgusting noise," he said.

    "I can't go inside and read a book," said Don Blunt, who represents Beckley Beach cottagers.
    Haldimand Councillor heard from members of the public for three hours on Monday, the majority of whom were against the Autodrome operations and live or reside in the vicinity of Port Maitland Road near Lake Erie.

    "We have suffered miserably from the noise," said one man, who described it as sounding like "angry bees." He pointed out that local bed and breakfasts are opposed to the noise as well.

    Roger O'Hara owns Maitland Shores, a seasonal RV resort with 250 sites. He said that people from out-of-town have left his establishment due to the noise after initially being interested in purchasing park models. He claims to have lost $1.2 million (40-50 sales) and has served the Autodrome with papers, informing owners that he intends to sue for losses that are ongoing.

    He claims to have been outsold by other sites that don't feature the waterfront access he does, with space for boats.

    O'Hara spent thousands of dollars on getting the proper development approvals for his property and said the county is losing millions in spin-offs because of the Autodrome.

    People want to have 'Vacation getaways," but on many occasions people have packed up and cut their time in the park short because of the noise, he said in a letter.

    If completed, O'Hara said Maitland Shores will invest up to $10.5 million in the local economy. It is presently providing six full-time jobs and could provide up to 50 in the future along with 10-15 seasonal, student jobs. The Autodrome currently employs eight people.

    "If Haldimand wants to promote economic development in Dunnville...it should not approve the Autodrome's rezoning application," O'Hara concluded.

    Councillors including Don Ricker and Lome Boyko admitted that they've experienced the noise first-hand.

    Ricker said he's had conversations with local residents interrupted due to the noise and that he can hear it over the phone when residents call him at home to complain. Boyko said that he can hear it on some days at his home that's situated in the Town of Dunnville about four to five miles away, and that complaints have increased.

    He said the issue has divided the town and that proponents of the Autodrome have removed subjectivity by operating during the last five years.

    Normally it is the applicant who pays for a peer review of noise testing but the Autodrome refused to undertake the review even though the county was willing to pay a portion of the bill.

    The noise studies under-taken by the Autodrome during the past three years did not exceed Ministry of Environment noise regulations. However other noise consultants as well as local residents claim that the studies undertaken were not done properly and were done on days with relatively low activity compared with normal operations.

    A county staff report cited "oversimplified analysis" and that "noise receivers have been missed."

    Sloat pointed out that other tracks in the county have been forced to put in permanent devices that regularly test and report noise on an ongoing basis.

    The Autodrome will also need a racing license to operate but cannot apply for one until it has proper zoning in place.

    Coun. Tony Dalimonte said the racing bylaw was put in place to address noise.

    Caledonia Coun. Craig Grice said his main concern was that Autodrome owners haven't complied with the county's requirements in four years.

    More recently the county has pursued additional charges against the Autodrome for operating in contravention of bylaws.

    Businesses must comply with process so we don't have to have these kind of meetings, Grice said, while holding up more than 600 pages of documentation chronicling the issue.

    Council rejected the application for rezoning with a resounding 6-1 vote. Staff had recommended that the application not be approved. Development Planner Mike Evers cited "inconclusive" noise studies and concerns at a "high level" in the community.

    Mayor Marie Trainer said she couldn't vote against a business that was going to bring jobs to the community.

    "I think it's the way the wind is blowing," she said.

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  12. Why does Haldimand County continue to introduce new by-law legislation (signage, noise, etc.), when they don't even enforce current by-laws (smoke shacks, DCE by-law infractions, etc.)?
    Has Haldimand County fallen into the same "two tiered" by-law enforcement trap the Province has been advocating for the past three years? All signs point to YES!

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  13. Cigerettes are Federal jurisdiction with RCMP enforcement. The province owns the DCE and therefore as a senior level of gov't do not have to comply with local by laws. In fact, both the fed's and province do not have to pay property taxes and only make payments in kind to municipalities. There is no recourse. Does the County have issues with the activites of both smokes shacks and the DCE of course and it has been well documented. The problem as we have just seen last thursday, is enforcement.

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  14. Let's add up the public tax dollars being spent on "10" days of hearings with the OMB? Anyone want to guess what this will cost on top of the thousands already spent. The county would have done a better job with this money by helping a business come in to the county, not fight they tooth and nail because of a few residents that have a personal vendetta. I say that because of the fact that the most noise in that area comes from plane, boats, cars, trucks etc. but they are not trying to stop that, or maybe they will work on that next. Look out Port Maitland Shores they will be after you if you ever do get 350 boats!

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  15. It will be interesting when the OMB learns that Haldimand County has no bylaw for noise!

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  16. I am so angry and sick of people speaking about bringing business to Haldimand without any consideration of the things local residents have to put up with from the illegal operations of the Autodrome. For a business to exist it needs to do so in a legal way in places that are zoned to support them (not residential neighbourhoods!). It's easy to say Haldimand should support business (which it should where and when appropriate) when that "business" is not ruining your daily living as it is for many area residents who have to put up with much more than just the noise being forced on them. Just one thing we have to put up with is the unsafe operation of the racing vehicles as they tailgate each other speeding by my house, which is on the same road as the Dunnville Airport. Walkers, bikers and other vehicles on this somewhat curved road with very narrow shoulders are being put at risk by these young, inexperienced racers. Yes, I know they are young, inexperienced drivers because I see them firsthand as they speed by my house every weekend and some weeknights. I hear the noise all day long as their cars grind up and down through their gears on the illegal racetrack. There are two tracks within 20 minutes of the Dunnville Airport that are built specifically to handle racecars - why aren't they going there? Why do we protect "businesses" who snub the law and only serve their own financial interest? The financial impact on the local economy is extremely minimal at best and is far outweighed by the adverse affects being placed on local law-abiding, taxpaying citizens. These speed demons come into town, get their racing jollies, then take off out of town again. What good is that for the local economy? Several expensive studies have identified that Tourism is the future for our area. This illegal activity does nothing to promote tourism and I'm sure it's having the opposite effect, and the activity it does promote is not wanted by the local residents! If the people who write in supporting this illegal activity want this activity to continue, perhaps they can offer up their own streets for the speed demons to race on all day long, so they can't get any peace after a hard day/week at work and so the others using their local roads can be put at undue risk.
    Haldimand County and OMB - PLEASE, get rid of the Autodrome once and for all!!

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  17. I'm posting late, the Autodrome has lost the case.

    However, as a matter of my principle to correct downright stupid statements, there are some really ignorant and laughable claims made by the immediate poster above I have to correct:

    "Just one thing we have to put up with is the unsafe operation of the racing vehicles as they tailgate each other speeding by my house, which is on the same road as the Dunnville Airport."

    I would not go as far as to say you know nothing about driving, but I guess it cannot be too far from the truth - you obviously know nothing about motorsports safety. All vehecles went through thorough inspection before they're allowed to be driven in the facility.

    "Walkers, bikers and other vehicles on this somewhat curved road with very narrow shoulders are being put at risk by these young, inexperienced racers. Yes, I know they are young, inexperienced drivers because I see them firsthand as they speed by my house every weekend and some weeknights."

    LOL. So any car "speeding" by your house (by the way, got a speedometer?) are "young, inexperienced racers". I challenge you in terms of being able to drive safely under any situation, if you dare to take it up - and debunk your "young = inexperience" hypothesis once and for all.

    "I hear the noise all day long as their cars grind up and down through their gears on the illegal racetrack."

    Face it, you know absolutely nothing about performance driving. All these "safety", "inexperienced" are just thin veils behind your motive of not being annoyed. I think the wish of not being annoyed is very noble, but pleeeease - bringing up "safety" and "driving skills and experience" issues are totally out of your league, which would only make you our laughingstock.

    "There are two tracks within 20 minutes of the Dunnville Airport that are built specifically to handle racecars - why aren't they going there?"

    As a matter of fact, we go there as well. Too bad from now on you won't have our businesses.

    "Several expensive studies have identified that Tourism is the future for our area."

    Pleeease don't bring up the word "tourism". Dunnville has never been known as being a tourist attraction, and I can bet you $500 it won't have a chance in the next 20 years (no, shopping in an outlet doesn't count as "tourism").

    Tell us ONE thing that your town have done to make it more attractive to tourists. Don't blame on the failure of your town on someone else.

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  18. What is laughable is the comment directly above.

    The Autodrome skirted the law and it caught up to them. Muzzle them.

    Go race somewhere that doesn't mind the constant drone of racing vehicles like the QEW / 427 late at night.

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  19. F-You Dunnville I haven't spent a dime in your "City" since the Autodrome closed and never will again. I'm glad the pickle factory is closing.

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  20. Canada's biggest Retards (yes I said Retards) was Filmed there. Why was there no protest? Doing Donuts for 30 minutes each at a time. Must be nice and quiet.

    F-you skilled drivers. Cant drive worth shit and a negative on a community (but on T.V.) Welcome to Dunnville.


    To Quote a Volkswagen add.

    Drivers Wanted. Shitty drivers only.

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  21. I'm just reading this for the first time and I am disappointed.. I think the track (on the old airfield which I believe was a fighter pilots training facility in WWII) could have been an asset to attract people from all over North America... Top Gear (A very popular show in the U.K. and now becoming a popular show in North America) is filmed at a disused WWII airfield in the U.K. which was converted to a driver development track. It's put the place on the map. Celebrities want to go there! There have been missed opportunities, with having a prestigious driver development track in an area where not to many people know about. Some "High Class" people drive those expensive cars and one thing leads to another... life is like that. I guess the old airfield will get swallowed up into a housing development or trailer park... shame on you Council for not having a bit of vision and not realizing an opportunity to keep a bit of your heritage!

    p.s. can you image the noise from the old planes when they were taking off one after the other... training pilots... bet there weren't any complainers then!

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