Monday, February 2, 2009

Haldimand "Bruce Power Holds Open House in Dunnville"

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Bruce Power dished up relevant information at open house
Posted By KAREN BEST, CHRONICLE STAFF WRITER

Frank Collins and Mike Ramsey called Bruce Power asking for a presentation in Dunnville after the town was left off a list of information sessions on a proposed nuclear power facility.

On Jan. 20, Ramsey completed a circuit of displays set up by consulting firm Golder Associates in St. Michael's Parish Hall. He was one of about 100 who attended that evening.

He said he asked Bruce Power to bring information to town because it was the biggest community in Haldimand County. When Collins called, Bruce Power acknowledged that leaving Dunnville out of the meeting schedule was an error.

For the rest of the environmental assessment process, Dunnville will be included. The next round of meetings is scheduled for March.

For Ramsey, the economy and safety were concerns as it was for some when the Nanticoke coal fired power generation plant was proposed in the 1970s.

After learning more about nuclear power generation, he said everything was well explained and his concerns were spent fuel rod storage and the downwind impact on Dunnville.

Economics was on his mind too. "We need a shot in the arm of the economy and this might be what we need," said Ramsey.

"If we lose Nanticoke, Haldimand County will be a ghost town," pointed out Collins. "We need to replace that. In many countries, power is generated at nuclear facilities."

He would like to see a nuclear power plant and a clean coal conversion at the Nanticoke OPG plant.

Like most people that evening, Anne Marie Flatt attended to become informed. She learned that many of her questions will be addressed through the environmental assessment on the property beside the U. S. Steel plant in the industrial park by Lake Erie.

Flatt wanted to know where spent fuel will be housed and if an earthquake fault existed in the vicinity of the site. For Flatt and her mother, Sylvia Weaver, an increase in the property tax base and 1,000 new jobs were benefits that will will come from the project.

"I'm also concerned about the yellow plume that drifts across the lake (from the coal plant)," said Weaver.

Councillors Lorne Boyko, Don Ricker and Leroy Bartlett attended as well that evening. Boyko said the event was non-confrontational but a few people expected protesters picketing outside with signs.

Standing near information exhibits, Bartlett said he attended all but the Simcoe information session to find out what people are thinking.

At the end of the day, Haldimand County council will make a decision on this one way or the other, he pointed out. Under the City of Nanticoke official plan, the plant would not be permitted and a planning application will be required, he explained.

Under the Haldimand County official plan, that has not been approved by the provincial government, the plant would be allowed, he added.

Bartlett also pointed out that the federal and provincial governments will also have to determine if this is the site for a nuclear power plant.

At the radiation exhibit, Dr. Doug Boreman, a Bruce Power scientist, answered questions as Doctors Reza and Barb Kazemi raised concerns. He told them Three Mile Island was a success story because the reactor meltdown was contained and no radiation was released.

In the design proposal for Bruce Power's Nanticoke plant, reactors will be housed in a concrete building lined with steel and encased in steel. "You can never break through the inside," said Boreman.

Within 200 years, radiation levels in spent fuel rods will fall to the same level as a CT scan, he noted.

After listening to Boreman, Dr. Scott Reid said he attended because he was interested in hearing about nuclear power.

"I think it would be a good thing for Haldimand County and the province," he said as he prepared to go home. "I have a lot of confidence in safety measures," he added.

In 1981, he attended the grand opening of the first Ontario nuclear plant in Bruce County. Scott said a relative, who is a tool and dye operator, works in the facility and has told him how safe operations were. Employees are given top-notch high quality tools to maintain the facility at the utmost quality, he added.

Reid said it was vital that people get questions answered because there is always a lot of fear about nuclear power plants.

Both Reza and Barb Kazemi went away with concerns for people and the environment so they wanted alternate power sources reviewed.

Reza pointed out that power consumption dropped 2.5 per cent a year over the past two years. If that wonderful trend of conservation here might be not be a need for more nuclear power plants, he added.

During his presentations, Boreman told people that new nuclear plants will have to be built over the next few decades to replace old structures that will be decommissioned.

After the session ended, Duncan Moffett, a principle with Golder Associates, commented on the terrific community interest displayed in Dunnville. People raised similar concerns and questions as at other sessions. The vast majority wanted to find out more information before making up their minds, he noted.

"We love that. That's part of the environmental assessment," said Moffett.

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12 comments:

  1. Within 200 years, radiation levels in spent fuel rods will fall to the same level as a CT scan, he noted.

    This might be somewhat true but it is quite a disingenuous argument. Two important facts are left out.

    A CT scan delivers 400x the radiation of a common xray. Humans cannot tolerate multiple CT scans over a short period of time.

    The nuke spin doctor sez exposure to one fuel rod for one hour 200 years from now will give you the same dose as a CT scan. What he fails to mention is that fuel rods are welded into bundles of 37 rods and the welding job is designed to withstand 18 months at the very core of the nuclear reactor.

    Nobody is going to unweld those bundles and nobody will ever be exposed to just one single spent fuel rod. Additionally, the bundles of spent fuel rods are stored in large numbers with hundreds or even thousands of bundles all centrally located. Again, the chances of being exposed to a single fuel rod, now or 200 years from now, is beyond unlikely.

    These are then same misrepresentations Bruce's pitchmen have been giving everyone who'll listen. Too bad they're fooling so many.

    JB

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  2. Well the part that amused me in this article is that some council members thought that there was going to be people outside holding signs and protesting? This tells me that these council members have already heard from the community that they are not in favour of this nuclear plant.

    I am not in favour of this plant and am not convinced that the storage is safe.

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  3. I agree with you jimbobby, the real truth is not reaching the people and never will, this is all about the money.

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  4. I am a student studying Environmental Engineering at Mohawk College.

    I have done countless projects on neuclear reactors and power plants. The fact of the matter is that anything is healthier than having that coal plant out there.

    Did you know That the Nanticoke Coal plant is the Last Coal burning power plant in Canada? Canada has 16 operating reactors that are responsible for 21,000 jobs in Canada.

    How many people have you heard of that have gotten sick from radiation poisoning? Now, if you were able to come up with any how many of those got the poisoning from a power plant?

    In my educated opinion a neuclear power plant would be the best thing that has ever happened to Haldimand County. It would bring new jobs, population, and put Haldimand on the map.

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  5. Haldimand County : Bruce Power Hoping Environmental Assessment Goes To Joint Review

    The environmental assessment of the proposed nuclear power site in Nanticoke is underway and Bruce Power says they're doing their part to ensure any potential dangers to the environment are addressed. Bruce Power Spokesman John Peevers tells CD989 before too long he feels the federal Minister of Environment will refer their environmental assessment to a joint review panel. Peevers says for the time being Bruce Power will continue their community information sessions in hopes of educating locals about the process and addressing any concerns they may have. Peevers says the next step after that would be to figure out how to mitigate any problems if the assessment found any.

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  6. I have done countless projects on neuclear reactors and power plants.
    ...
    In my educated opinion a neuclear power plant would be the best thing...


    Educated? The mere fact that you can't even spell nuclear and have misspelled it twice in the same comment tells me you're not being honest. If you did even one project on nuclear power, your Mohawk college instructor would surely have corrected the spelling.

    Radiation sickness and deaths from a nuclear power plant? Chernobyl caused thousands.

    Childhood cancer levels (leukemia) in German children living near nuke plants is so high that Germany put a moratorium on new nukes and is actively decommissioning its existing nukes.

    Keep studying. Do it with an open mind and use the google once in a while.

    BTW, I have plenty of academic credentials but I don't pull them out to bolster my case. People with far more credentials than you have are arguing for the opposite side.

    JB

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  7. Dear educated,

    Not only can you not spell nuclear, you are wrong on coal plants.

    "Did you know That the Nanticoke Coal plant is the Last Coal burning power plant in Canada?"

    Lampton is still running, with 50% clean coal technology. Soon to be 100%

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  8. My understanding is that the Nanticoke plant only generates 2% of the pollution in Ontario. Around 70% is generated from transit systems, cars, trucks etc. It seems that even if the coal plant is shutdown with the increase in transportation we are in a losing battle!

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  9. According to Pollution Watch, the Nanticoke station was responsible for 11.24% of Ontario's pollution in 2006, the latest year for which figures are available. Scrubbers and clean coal technology would reduce that figure considerably.

    We still need to do something about transportation-generated pollution. We have made big strides with higher efficiency engines, better tailpipe filtering, hybrids, electric cars, mass transit, etc. Of course, we can do better and must do better.

    We do not need to think that there will be a constant "increase in transportation." When gas was at its peak price, many people learned that they don't really need to fire up the chugmobile to go to the corner store and that they can combine their errands that require car travel to minimize trips.

    Just because transportation is a worse polluter than Nanticoke station, does not mean we should disregard the 11% coming from Nanticoke. Pollution from airplanes is worse than from cars. Do we point at air travel and quit worrying about cars?

    We're only in a losing battle if we decide we don't have the initiative or wherewithal to meet the challenge of a low carbon economy. The Europeans and Scandinavians have embraced low carbon technologies and economies and they are not suffering.

    JB

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  10. Thanks for your comments everyone.

    Jimbobby thanks for your input it is much appreciated.

    Your comment; Nobody is going to unweld those bundles and nobody will ever be exposed to just one single spent fuel rod. Additionally, the bundles of spent fuel rods are stored in large numbers with hundreds or even thousands of bundles all centrally located. Again, the chances of being exposed to a single fuel rod, now or 200 years from now, is beyond unlikely.

    I too wish that the above truth be told!

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  11. It looks like their are a few in Dunnville that are being swept up by Bruce Power. I am a little concerned about the comment that Three Mile Island was a success story, now if I am not mistaken that was a terrible disaster for the residents. So how can this be a success story?

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  12. So how can this be a success story?

    Up is down and down is up.

    Bruce is 6 months behind schedule and 24% over budget on its refurbishment project in Tiverton. According to Bruce, this is acceptable and normal and the project is considered successful, so far.

    Ontario taxpayers are paying the full bill for the original estimate of $2.75 billion PLUS 50% of the cost overrun.

    A Bruce spokesperson wrote a letter to an Alberta newspaper claiming that the industry has a spotless safety record.

    "...attempt to fear monger by making ill-informed statements about our industry’s safety record. The truth is there has never been a fatality - or an injury of any kind - to a member of the public due to reactor operations."
    (http://www.centralpeacesignal.com/story.php?id=203515)

    Chernobyl never happened.

    The German government never did studies that discovered children living near nuke plants have higher than average levels of childhood leukemia.

    BP's paid propagandists are disseminating their half-truths and lies. Public pressure forced them to reconsider their initial choice for location of an Alberta reactor. Public pressure here in H-N can do the same.

    JB

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